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trancada 6th Apr 2016 21:47

CargologicAir
 
This week FLIGHT INTERNATIONAL is advertising for type 747-400 Captains and F/O’s.

Anyone knows their expansion plans?

Loader1 7th Apr 2016 09:54

The plans are here: Cargologicair confirms launch and sets out fleet plan. And they just applied to fly to the US.

tom744 7th Apr 2016 21:31

Big words for a start up.
Unfortunately they pay only pocket money, 7000 pounds gross

Mr.White 8th Apr 2016 10:19

Any idea on Capt. Salary?

What kind of roster? any chance to get something like 20 ON/ 10 OFF to commut from Europe to UK?

tom744 8th Apr 2016 13:36

that is captain's salary.....befor UK tax.
They contribute 5% of salary to a pension fund, I guess you get also per diem and you got 12 off days a month but no idea if they could be consecutive.

Mr.White 8th Apr 2016 14:01

They wont get 747 Capt for that salary, I hope so.

Whats wrong with this people?

torghabe 13th Apr 2016 06:49

7000 pounds pocket money?? You have enough commodious pocket.

South Prince 13th Apr 2016 10:16

if 7000 is gross total yes, it is very low.

main_dog 13th Apr 2016 13:55

For an experienced B747 captain, that is nowhere near adequate.

SkyHawk1985 13th Apr 2016 22:09

So what about the salary for an experienced F/O?

bafanguy 14th Apr 2016 09:57

If the quoted figure is accurate, do you suppose they offer that amount because they find enough people who will accept it ?

SkyHawk1985 14th Apr 2016 10:48

You never know. It depends the lifestyle that they offer as well.

ErwinS 14th Apr 2016 16:29

7000 gross not enough???
Pilots........

What do you think all the supporting staff is being payed keeping you flyboys up in the air? Not even half!

RedBullGaveMeWings 14th Apr 2016 18:25

I have no say on this matter as I don't even have a tenth of experience required for the job, but let me tell you ErwinS that two wrongs don't make a right.

coltrane 15th Apr 2016 08:04

@ErwinS


7000 gross not enough???
Pilots........

What do you think all the supporting staff is being payed keeping you flyboys up in the air? Not even half!
Yeaa, these ever moaning, spoiled flyboys.. Spending 20 days a month away from home and hearth, chronically fatigued, divorced, with the ABN-AMRO at my back.. 3500 NET for a 74 skipper is just not right! that's 30% of the market conform remuneration

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Flightmech 15th Apr 2016 10:21

Like pilots are the only people in the aviation industry who spend 20 days away from home and suffer the same ailments you describe....:ugh::ugh::ugh:

DCBOE 15th Apr 2016 15:31

Whinging Pilots.
 
If you whinging pilots don,t like it don,t do it, there are plenty of jobs for pilots all over the world, 747, 777, 787 and Airbus, but of course you all think you are so special and deserve so much, don,t even go there with how much training you have done, in this industry we have all done loads of training quite often a lot more than pilots.:=

coltrane 15th Apr 2016 22:05

I'm not special, I'm not whining, I love my job!! (unlike frustrated peopel like DCBOE & Erwin it seems..) i just want to keep it like that.. Paying a 74 capt. the same as a 25 year old easy/ryanair FO is just not right.. That's all I'm trying to explain:O :ok:

main_dog 16th Apr 2016 13:05

Boys, frankly you sound like you have a case of green eyes and sour grapes? Your average 747 skipper has gone through dozens of years of training and hard work to get to where he is, in command of (and solely responsible for) a 450 tonne machine worth over 250 million dollars (not to mention all the lives at stake, especially if flying passengers), and quite simply GBP7,000 gross is not even close to adequate. Even 7.000 net would be low.

Anyway fear not, the industry is going to pot from an employee's point of view, and passengers expect to pay less for the airplane ticket than the taxi ride to the airport. The salaries of line pilots in terms of spending power have gone down inexorably over the past twenty years and pretty soon we won't even be making that much... :{

Private jet 17th Apr 2016 11:55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a12MI9AdTPE

Only 7000? This "wise guy" has a similar attitude.

especially relevent from 1:38 on...

The Crew 20th Apr 2016 06:17

The rated DECs will no doubt come from the industry spoilers ... BA

Flightmech 20th Apr 2016 11:31

Why would you say that? There is no affiliation with BAWC in this operation. I assume you are referring to the well-documented GSS "secondee" arrangement.

trancada 20th Apr 2016 15:14

This is the second week that, this company advertises in FLIGHT INTERNATIONAL, for TR pilots.

My question is , are there many TR pilots on 747 pilots available?

Because , CAE Parc aviation is also looking for Slikways Airlines in Azerbaijan.

Cargolux China , and some Far East companies also looking for it..

ETOPS 27th Apr 2016 16:06


This is the second week that, this company advertises in FLIGHT INTERNATIONAL, for TR pilots.
That's because they are getting a second aircraft G-CLAB B747-83QF currently at KPAE painted in the "Seahawks" scheme.

trancada 30th Apr 2016 05:21

Great news !

Intruder 3rd May 2016 18:53

Looks like Boeing finally sold their early heavyweight 748s! The first "Seahawk" airplane went away just over a year ago, and the 2nd one was painted soon thereafter.

ErwinS 4th May 2016 15:09


Originally Posted by coltrane (Post 9344782)
@ErwinS



Yeaa, these ever moaning, spoiled flyboys.. Spending 20 days a month away from home and hearth, chronically fatigued, divorced, with the ABN-AMRO at my back.. 3500 NET for a 74 skipper is just not right! that's 30% of the market conform remuneration

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Yes like the engineers who are based in places you never would normally go. Staying in a cheap ass hotel. Working night shifts to get your aircraft ready. Doing overtime to get your! aircraft ready. And in the end when an accident happens? Its the engineer who put his sign under the release! Fixing things most likely the flyboys broke. And with the pressure of the whole operation on his back. And that for a mere 2700eu.... including travel expence.

Pilots.....

still here 6th May 2016 05:42

know your value, if people will not pay it, do not do it.
there is no point agreeing to a rate, then complaining.

main_dog 10th May 2016 07:29

Erwin, sounds like you chose the wrong profession... ;-)

ErwinS 10th May 2016 11:26

No. I am scared to fly;-P

fabvirgil 10th May 2016 15:14

Cargologicair interview
 
Does anyone have any info on the interview procedure. I know the salary, but any other info on Ts and Cs?

SkyHawk1985 5th Jun 2016 10:10

Any info about the fleet expansion and new routes?

trancada 6th Jun 2016 23:09

Seems that a new 748 is coming soon.

trancada 6th Jun 2016 23:10

What is the salary?

Zapper27 8th Jun 2016 09:51

Fleet expansion and conditions
 
Hi all,

The seconned aircraft is due in a couple of weeks, more to come in a quite short period! CLA has a excellent team, flightcrews, but also in the office, a very nice company to work for!

The pilot conditions have recently been adjusted, basepay, sector pay etz.....

Happy landings

Zapper

trancada 8th Jun 2016 13:04

It’s nice to know !

SkyHawk1985 8th Jun 2016 20:56

I can confirm what Zapper27 is saying. It seems to be a very nice and promising company.

AdzMc 9th Jun 2016 11:28

Does anybody know what CLA's plans are with recruitment? I've seen them advertising for ages, wanting type rated FO's and Captains, but I can't imagine many pilots wanting to make the jump as they're probably already flying for legacy carriers like BA and Virgin etc.

dan1165 21st Dec 2017 08:29

They are specialized for not responding to emails :hmm: ...

slam_dunk 16th Feb 2018 18:32

This link is helpfull for you: CargoLogicAir pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools
Paying is in GBP, but for those who are not living in the UK: for 2018 there is a fixed exchange rate offered at Euro 1,20 to the pound.
Kind regards, S_D


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