FedEx buys TNT Express
 

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FedEx, TNT Express reach agreement on all-cash offer for TNT - MarketWatch

Last line of the report doesn't read well :{

What Will happen then to the TNT crews?
TNT Airways is Belgium's second largest airline.
If Americans would replace European pilots, working in Europe, that would be a criminal consequence of EU incompetence to protect their own interests. Mind you, I do not blame US carriers to protect and promote themselves.

What is the deal at Fedex regarding operation of Fedex flights by non-FedEx carriers?

New York Times

FedEx to buy TNT
 

FedEx to buy rival TNT Express for ?4.4bn - BBC News

"That is below the threshold of about 30% that European regulators would normally use... However, there will be a pressure on TNT to sell off some of its airline operations," he added.

Must have some implications for the various cargo contractors in the future.

FedEx to buy TNT
 

Heard it all before last year with UPS but that fell through even after all the millions spent

Despegue
A lot of Fed Ex feeders are European turbo prop carriers but a lot of inter european stuff already operated by Fed Ex B757 with crews from the States.

This is about greater distribution in the EU for FedEx. Would not be surprised if it is not business as usual for TNT employees, they just might be working with greater volumes of packages many of them purple and white. FedEx has already invested billions in global distribution.

Let me get this straight: In order to get approval of their plan, FedEx is proposing to divest TNT Airways. But logic dictates they'll still need to deliver a lot of packages by air; far more than their current European fleet will support. This can only mean that FedEx are planning to carry the additional volumes using it's own fleet.

Shall one therefore deduce, that in order to comply with anti-trust regulation, the answer is to lay-off a sizeable number of EU based crew members, and replace same with a near-equal number of US based? To achieve what, exactly, when it comes to competition?

FedEx buys TNT Express
 

Actually the 757 crews are domiciled in and live in CGN. They are not US based.

This should be interesting. Expect to see more N - registered 757F/767F/777F aircraft throughout the EU , more American FedEx pilots ( sending their taxes back to America ) , more FedEx vehicles on the roads as their market share nearly doubles and much more intra-EU competition. Business in the EU express market is about to get very competitive , good for the consumer. Bad for EU pilots. Hopefully the TNT flight crews will receive a decent severance package.

If Europeans want TNT to remain European owned, they only have to buy it!

TNT Airways will be sold to an European company. Several have already voiced interest . An Irish (ASL) who already had an agreement when UPS was near to buy TNT, 2 years ago, could well be back in the picture (the press)
ASL are already dry and wet leasing a/c to several express companies even La Poste, DHL EAT, ...why not fdx

According to some friends from PanAir/TNT, "November " registered aircraft will no longer fly intra european routes, as per EU law coming into force. I believe all american pilots will have to get an EASA full ATPL licence as well as a european passport in order to continue to fly in Europe. Otherwise they'll have to go back to America or wherever. Game is over. Tic tac tic tac.

Maybe that is why fedex is trying to buy european airlines, so that they can get european pilots (and cheaper than fedex pilots), under european contract, european tax and EASA regulation. Who knows. :p

Fred Smith has too many ( Republican ) politicians in his pocket to allow EU labour law to supplant the FedEx pilot`s union insistence that FedEx freight be flown by FedEx pilots. Bilaterals win the day. Nice try though.

American pilots will soon go home with a european kick in their @ss :ok:

From the official FEDEX statement :

"Non-financial Covenants

(...)

Recognizing the significant value of TNT Express' operations, infrastructure, people and expertise in Europe, Amsterdam/Hoofddorp will become the European regional headquarters of the combined companies. Liege will be maintained as a significant operation for the group going forward. In addition, TNT Express’ operations as a European air carrier will be divested to address applicable airline ownership regulations. Where permitted by regulation, FedEx intends to transition TNT Express’ intercontinental air operations to FedEx."


FedEx - FedEx and TNT Express Agree on Recommended All-Cash Public Offer for All TNT Express Shares

Where did you get this info SeaSexSun?

I would love this to be true, but as far as I know, the EU still has not made the decision to consider intra-EU flights as Cabotage thus not allowing FEDEX and UPS to use US crews and aircraft on intra-EU routes.

I do know though that this is being worked on thankfully:ok:

seasexsun, you are dreaming. A commission hell-bent on TTIP will not introduce new restrictions.

For this consumer this is not a good thing. It removes one competitor from the market.

TNT probably provides the worse customer 'experience' today, but I don't see that improving by painting FedEx on the sides of their trucks.

We need more competitors, not fewer.

FedEx buys TNT Express
 

TNT pretty mixed fleet compared to fed ex ?? Still think the EU might have a say

I cannot see this benefiting anyone, except FedEx share holders :ugh:
European regulators need to man up!:mad:

Have any of you looked at FedEx's Canadian operation? FedEx aircraft operated by a Canadian company. FedEx will make this happen, mark my word. No need for all this speculation.

When the EU becomes one country cabotage may be an issue, not before. If that happen then the Americans can pull out of NATO and allow Europe and Europeans to provide for their own defense and security. Mr. Putin is all in favor.:ok:

FoxHunter , the USA leaving NATO is like the UK leaving the Commonwealth. Such silly threats/comments/distractions do this discussion no service. If the USA has to threaten the defensive security of Allies in order to favour business practices , well then the " Empire " really has fallen on it`s rather rotund backside.

Has nothing to do with business practices. There were plenty of Americans that wanted nothing to do with Europe in 1940. There is a fast growing number returning to that opinion.

Without Europe you would not be American, do you remember La Fayette ?

What about European businessmen and investors?!?

So far anything heavier than 40t must be operated by FedEx pilots. :bored:

FedEx buys TNT Express
 

And here we go again.....Europe or the European Union is not a country.

Yes, here we go again:

Schengen zone IS economically one country, just like the different States in the USA.

We have EU law, superceding local one, we have EU government and EU economic area.

Americans should NEVER replace European pilots in Europe. That is by the way against the local law in Belgium, which will be used to the full extend by ECA ( European Cockpit Association).

FedEx buys TNT Express
 

And what about all the European staff that FedEx employs throughout the region? Still, let's just worry about the pilots eh?

Don't you think that FedEx managment would be more than happy to get rid of all those expensive and unproductive US pilots on the Intra-european network? :E

The whining speculation here is pathetic. This whole deal is about broadening a market for FedEx. If the regulators you speak of will most likely protect you and I am sure FedEx wants happy productive employee's. Like I said before look at Morningstar Air Express Inc. - Home this is most likely what will happen if I could provide a sliver of speculation based on FedEx precedent operating in a foreign country that protects the welfare of it's citizens.

grounded27
Canada is a sovereign nation, Europe is a group of sovereign nations. Canada is one large country, Europe is a group of small, and very small countries.

hotelmodemetar
There would be a problem with the labour agreement with ALPA plus FedEx has a much hire standard for new hire F/Os than common in Europe as recent news reports indicate. The basic requirement is 1000 hours as Captain in jet or turboprop transport aircraft and probably 4-5000 hours total, plus a 4 year University Degree to receive any consideration.

eeeer....no? Why do you consider them "unproductive" anyway.

FedEx buys TNT Express
 

TNT Airways will have to be sold off first anyway. The only thing I can see happening (possibly) is FedEx taking over the lease of the existing 777s and painting them purple with an N reg. Like the ex AF 777s, LAN Cargo 767s and in the near future the Silk Way 767s.

If they want the 777 then they must take the TNT 777 pilots as well and offer them permanent employment
If they want to sell the airline beforehand they will have to give the buyer a solid and long term contract to carry the freight in EU

FedEx buys TNT Express
 

I don't think that will happen. I believe they could take over the lease and incorporate it into their own fleet.

If TNT actually owned the 777's, you might have a leg to stand on, but they don't. One day TNT is leasing them, next day returned to the owner, and day three, presto, an "N" registration with "FE" at the end.