Freight pilot in sex case
 

The pilot involved in the case is believed to also fly for one of the big European freight companies.

Flying school pilot in sex case - Crime - Blackpool Gazette

Delilah
 

Makes sense as I remember him singing Delilah in BRU. How apt.

As DHK Management always said "Hes one of our best".
:D:D:D:D:D:D

....... and I thought this was a new way to make deadheading more attractive to crew & cheaper for the airlines.

Another slot for a non-type rated, direct entry Captain! :mad:

.....The police have said that student, Jeremy Beadle, may have had a small hand in it too!

Oh come on....it was a little bit funny!

Good grief. Oh well - that probably takes care of his career and flying school then if found guilty.

Golf
 

And maybe if found innocent too, Sh!t sticks in this day and age.

Aviation is such a small World.

I went into the office one day with a whole pile of training records that I had generated from a week in the simulator.

My boss was in the (open plan) office going on about how we needed more simulator instructors. I said "why don't we check out *********?"

Come into my office said he.

It transpired that ********? was in Barlinnie Prison in Glasgow on what we would now call "sex with a minor" sort of offence.

I simply could not believe what I was hearing for I thought I knew ******** very well and we had been in the RAF together.

Sadly, I was wrong, paedophiles come from every section of society from the BBC, the Government, the Judiciary and the Police Force.

why put ************* if the name is already known? Craig Seville, its in the posted article.

And yes, as far as i am concerned, nothing to hide, let everybody know (his name), those people are sick.....

Yet another large fire for Bish Bosh, Tommy Tackle & RAF Castle Donington to waft!!!!

Peodofile Pilot
 

He has only been charged... But all the same this is not good for his companies like Aircraft Grouping which already has its own financial issues to cope with! Not good for anyone really, very sick and sad!!

I will show restraint and not comment.....:oh:

Was *************** from the RAF also at Air UK? If not, you can add another one to the list!

"There's nowt so queer as folk", as they say Oop North!

Any ideas what this is likely to do to his company, Aircraft Grouping? Was hoping to buy into their Cirrus no equity scheme but am concerned about the long term financial security, especially considering they've just sold off the associated flying school and some of the aircraft. :confused:

That will depend on the outcome of the
Court proceedings and details that emerge

Business is based on trust and reputation
So if serious and proven then very likely to
Adversely affect AGL, if less serious then less impact

Won't know until close of proceedings but
Not a positive either way and definitely unwelcome
Given current state of things

With regards to Aircraft Grouping we are operating as normal from Blackbushe, with no plans to cease operating.

Any ideas if it's the same case at EGNH?

Why don't you phone them up and ask them, rather than relying on anonymous rumour forums?

How long have you been told you'll be before you get your PPL? If you're very close, you may as well buy in now. If it's going to be a few months yet, I'd leave it, because you won't know what the group status will be in a few months time.

Apparently he's pleading guilty on 29/11/2012 when he has to appear at Preston Crown Court. Theses sort of people are SCUM.....

Good riddance.....

More to come ?
 

I am told that the current charges have arisen from evidence that was discovered during investigation into unconnected issues, there is the posability that further charges may arise from the original investigation.

Lets hope so A and C, lets hope so.

I honestly do believe that people involved in aviation are generally, as a whole, trustworthy and honourable people.....Yes i agree that there are the odd "harmless character's" that have evolved over the years...."harmless characters" we can put up with, to a certain extent... but do we really want paedophile's in aviation......i dont think so.....

Lets hope that when he pleads guilty, as he has said he will, (not to me) that for once, in his sad, sorry, webcam ridden, pathetic life he takes his punishment like an man, and not like a child..... and he will, well and truely dissapear from aviation for ever......

He doesn't moonlight as a musician or DJ when not flying, I suppose?

:rolleyes:

So on the one hand you're saying your mate is innocent until proven guilty, though you're then saying he's 'err'd' and is errr, guilty??

silverhawk
 

I totaly agree with you that a person is innocent untill proven guilty in a court of law.


On the whole I do understand your point about people's falability when it comes to busininess but sexual offenses especially against minors are about personal pleasure and gratification not bending the law a bit to get yourself out of a financial hole.

Is there any connection between this thread and the thread on R&N about silverhawk getting a subpoena from MOL?

I'm sorry Silverhawk i think you've got it badly wrong. I have also known him for a number of years and to be quite honest the allegations have left me shocked. Talking about cracking (seeming to indicate you are thinking extreme pressure) and the alleged crimes simply is not any form of defence.

Also an earlier poster seemed to indicate the intention to plead guilty.

"At the risk of being flamed I will say this; I have known this guy for several years. Not me, not you, nor anyone else is entirely innocent of everything. We will all err to some extent at some time or other. Given the correct set of circumstances or pressures, we will all crack, ALL."

Note your use of the term 'err'. If the above statement wasn't specifically referring to the alleged then it's a bit of irrelevant waffle so it's deduced you are referring to his actions as having been an 'err'. Consider yourself flamed.

The following is public information and factual so i'm guessing the moderators will not have a problem with it.

Preston Crown Court Listings, hearings, cases & details

Case to be listed for Sentence on 25-Feb-2013

Looks like a guilty plea as reported earlier in the thread.

Red 1 ?? was certainly in Air UK and departed quicker than a Hawk on full throttle

A tidy up for freight dog night owls who may not have read these threads elsewhere.

Not yet found (or pleaded) guilty. But, for the sake of argument, lets assume he will be.

What do you do with people like this? If the court sentences him to prison or some sort of detention/rehabilitation, its a moot point. But lets say he gets some sort of probation with conditions. It doesn't appear that his sort of job will put him in contact with juveniles. Close his business and/or fire him and now he's unemployed and out on the street where he's harder to track. And perhaps he'll develop a grudge against society and take it out on whomever.

Sure, most of us might be somewhat uncomfortable around such a person. But dealing with them professionally, while being fully informed of who and what they are might be the best place for them.

I could be wrong....but I'm pretty sure he pleaded guilty. It was listed on the Preston Crown Court case list web page just after the initial hearing in Crown Court. Either way, he's resigned from his job and whatever the outcome of Sentencing, people who have idea's about young children have NO place ANYWHERE in society.

As an ex-colleague of the individual it's sad to know that he's effectively thrown his life away. But, more importantly, thank god the Police are on the case of people who would potentially abuse Children.

Do you have a deserted island we can put these people on?

Yes, its a heinous crime, but what do we do with him now? Or after he is released from whatever incarceration he is sentenced to? His current (or last) profession didn't put him in contact with children. And once his co-workers know what he's been up to, they can keep an eye on him. He'll probably be in some work release program for the foreseeable future, checking in with the local authorities and perhaps wearing a GPS tracking device.

But if you just kick him out on the street, he's got time on his hands and the possibility of moving into a career or new circle of acquaintances that are not aware of his past.

Unless you've got that island ready, he will remain a part of society. Sure, you could give him a bus ticket to the next town. But they wouldn't be too happy about that. And the buses run in both directions.

This guy was always creepy IMHO. I worked there 10 years ago, and he was just weird.

Well known for his secrecy and rather strange attributes.

Now we know why.

Coincidentally, he's the second "sex pest" pilot I have known in the last decade.

I also had the serious misfortune of training with the perverted ex Monarch FO from Northamptonshire who was convicted of kiddy fiddling a few years back.

He wasn't even subtle. He used to tell us all about how much he enjoyed having the neighbours kids over.

Very grim.

Interesting, Flight academy Blackpool didn't even exits in 2003


Edit:-
Or were you talking about the freight side?

The freight side. When he was an FO, as was I.

EEngr - Prison is the only place for people like this and rightly or wrongly I don't consider those in prison as a part of society. They chose to break the law to an extent that a court decided thy should be removed from the streets and confined behind bars. You don't get locked up for shop lifting from the pick n' mix....

But we digress......it's a sad case all round.

Since you guys still supplicate to a monarchy over there, why don't you send him to the dungeon. A kangaroo court with wigs and robes would add some flourish to his trial.

The Robe
 

What a strange comment !

Are you a friend of that Alex Jones who Piers Morgan interviewed on TV a few days back ?

Worried
 

Hi,

I live on the same street and it was a neighbour who mentioned what he had been up to. Not that I know him, seems to keep himself to himself.

What is worrying is that our houses back onto a junior school - that is too close IMO for someone like that. Can't see him staying around though now this is out.