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RandomPerson8008 1st Feb 2012 09:33

Is the EU a sovereign nation? Until it is, I don't think there is much room to complain, no offense.

hardcase 1st Feb 2012 09:53

i agree, lots of european TP airlines are finding fedex 757's are now doing their european routes with plenty more to come. Why is this allowed?? European pilots losing jobs, airlines losing contracts, enough is enough!!!!!

3pointlanding 1st Feb 2012 11:36

A point of order is needed. The freight that FedEx flies is not freight from nor to one European country to another. All the freight either originated in the U.S. or is destined to the U.S. In addition, a lot of the frieght is U.S. mail (which will restrict who carries it). Additionally, ALL of the ground work is done by Europeans vendors as well as the cargo loading etc. Only the flight crews are American.

Flightmech 1st Feb 2012 13:22

exactamundo,

FedEx do not pick up freight from one EU country and deliver it directly to another EU country. All freight either origins in the US or is heading there. There are a few US management positions in the EU for ground ops but 95%+ are European employees plus the feeder network gives work to ACL, Swiftair and others.

In addition much of the Line maintenance is contracted out to European vendors as is the 757/Airbus Base maintenance.

The EU is not a sovereign nation but carry on beating the same drum regardless.

free at last 10th Feb 2012 16:27

despeque
 
In the last 45 years of flying I have seen more jobs being exported by people from Europe , taking jobs away from US pilots. So please get a reality check!!! If you want to make a decent PAY, don't wh...re you'r self for The intro jobs with so called up scale pay for training. In the USA not going on . It is time we quite fighting each other and start making more than you'r local trash hauler. Team work MY friend. That what brings results.:)

Flightmech 10th Feb 2012 16:31

Amazing how a simple question about the status of one aircraft from one operator has turned into a FedEx (and others) bashing thread:ugh:

free at last 10th Feb 2012 17:02

Threat
 
Because all three GSS aircraft where first operated by Atlas pilots for years from what we all know. :O

Flightmech 10th Feb 2012 17:06

Actually wasn't it only one (N495MC) operated by Atlas before GSS was formed? Painted in BA "Chelsea Rose" colours?

Ballymoss 10th Feb 2012 20:46

?
 

all three GSS aircraft where first operated by Atlas pilots for years from what we all know
And some of those Atlas pilots were Brit's while GSS was an embryo:rolleyes:

Don't understand the fuss.

Rgds
The Moss:ok:

Popgun 10th Feb 2012 21:38


Because all three GSS aircraft where first operated by Atlas pilots for years from what we all know
Ownership of the aircraft is not relevant.

At the end of the day, it is UK cargo flown for British Airways. UK (or European) pilots have a more than reasonable expectation of being able to fly it.

Just as Qantas pilots have a reasonable expectation that Aussie pilots should be flying Aussie freight handled by Qantas.

Atlas Air and its American pilots make a significant living out of flying foreign freight. Reciprocal opportunities are extremely hard to find...

PG

zeddb 10th Feb 2012 22:08

Gentlemen;

"A340yumyum"

Instant idiot. Just add water.

Do not feed.

zeddb 11th Feb 2012 00:18

A340

Were you turned down as a command secondee perchance? If you are considering it, I wouldn't bother. People with your attitude are spotted and sent home with great speed and little ceremony.

flite idol 11th Feb 2012 02:44


Just as Qantas pilots have a reasonable expectation that Aussie pilots should be flying Aussie freight handled by Qantas.
Qantas pilots and cabin crew should fly Qantas passengers, not Jetstar. Ownership of the freight is not relevant. Ownership of the passenger is not relevant.:ugh:

zeddb 12th Feb 2012 10:05

My dear A340,

If you are claiming to be a seconded captain, then I honestly don't believe you. All the seconded skippers are thoroughly nice guys and I have flown with most if not all of them. Furthermore, they are carefully screened before being accepted, not least to avoid pissing off the locals.

Someone with an attitude like you display wouldn't make it past the front door.

I notice that you have removed your second offensive post where you recommended that one of your elders and betters retire. That shows at least some sense of propriety.

If I am mistaken then we will surely meet in the not too distant future. That should be interesting.

747newguy 14th Feb 2012 04:16

N493MC as well, but I do recall only 2 in BA colors.

stilton 14th Feb 2012 06:37

'First of all, this is not entirely true and will even be less once some of the TP routes will be taken over by jets. In any case, they still fly A to B in European territory. This is what matters and this is something that EU carriers can't do in the US. Additionally, you have American carriers, ABX and ATI, flying on DHL's European network, their freight does not origins from the US.

I can see why it is still allowed as these flights are not "domestic". However it would be nice to see the EU protects their own market, the same way the US does it'



How can you be taken seriously Kim when you are Dead


I didn't even know you were il

cedgz 14th Feb 2012 11:36

funny funny funny

Fedex operates a lot of flights from eu to eu, eu to asia and eu to us
pilots are american(most of them are nice) and the rest of the workforce is local
So yes pilots are US but the rest is local and there are way more others than pilots to get the freight from A to B
Are you the guy that will save something like 50+ pilots(roughly counted for the eu to eu network) and/or want to have +/- 10.000 workers approx jobless(if fx would quit europe)? I hope is won't be you because a lot of people will :mad: you!
Mr pro EU that likes to complain a lot about everything without any good solution(kicking foreigners out is not a good one). Have a look at yourself and around you, a try to advance

Dave Gittins 14th Feb 2012 12:11

According to G-INFO, G-GSSC was de-registered on 8 Feb 2012 and transferred to the USA.


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