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Old 28th Jan 2012, 06:32
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Does anybody know what is going to happen to GSS 744 G-GSSC?

The other 2 744s leased by GSS have been returned to Atlas, SSC spent a month or two before Xmas 2011 flying some African rtes for EK, she the returned to MSE where she was held in 'storage' before returning to DXB & EK once again in mid Jan 12 after the S America plan fell through.

I see she conducted a very short leg from DXB to DWC on 25 Jan 12 as UAE4868. She does not appear to have moved since.

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Maintainance check and re-reg as N476GT in Feb. Back to Atlas Air thereafter.
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C Check at Haeco HKG in Feb then??????

Flite idol, your source?

G-GSSB went back to Atlas as N475MC followed by G-GSSA as N476MC and and for some reason they did not take back their original Atlas registrations of N491MC & N495MC respectively. Why would G-GSSC be N476GT?

Edit to above. N495MC is now a Cessna 182 in Arkansas hence the new reg!

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The source was Atlas management.......so not reliable......seriously!
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Fair enough!
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Old 28th Jan 2012, 23:07
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I believe the number is actually going to be N477MC. That from the VP of Ops.
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Fair enough!
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Old 29th Jan 2012, 12:06
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Recently upgraded Captains have been contacted to inform them that as SC is going back to Atlas they will have to return to the right hand seat. As if moral was not low enough already.

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Many thanks for all your inputs.

Presumably the reason why she has been moved to MSE & is that its a cheaper place to park?

So will she rte back to DXB (& fly for EK, BAW, GSS or even GTI) with cargo to HKG, or more simply from where she is parked (MSE) empty?

Sorry for all the questions.
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Old 30th Jan 2012, 13:54
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GSSC is now in Atlas colors with an Atlas N number.
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Old 30th Jan 2012, 14:52
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Thank you Fr8dog. Dancing gleefully on the grave of those on whom fortune has kicked in the nads is considered bad form in my world.

I really hope that they have manged to fix the pervasive smell of horse p*ss that perfumes your latest acquisition.

I further invite you to meditate on the concept of schadenfreude. Look it up in the dictionary sometime.
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Fr8Dog a little premature with his poor-taste sarcasm. It maybe going to Atlas colurs and N-reg but last I heard it was still sitting in DWC as G-GSSC and not getting to HKG til Wednesday
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Thank you Fr8dog. Dancing gleefully on the grave of those on whom fortune has kicked in the nads is considered bad form in my world.

I really hope that they have manged to fix the pervasive smell of horse p*ss that perfumes your latest acquisition.

I further invite you to meditate on the concept of schadenfreude. Look it up in the dictionary sometime.
Was not at all meant in anyway other than another airframe at Atlas. Never a good thing when someone looses a job. By the way, furlough letter went out to all the engineers here today @ 1658 EST so believe me all is not rosy here either. And the slot at HEICO is all set for the paint and registration change.
You do know that these were Atlas aircraft leased to GSS right?
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 13:38
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You do know that these were Atlas aircraft leased to GSS right?
Indeed. And GSS is 49% owned by Atlas. The airframe is not a net gain, just a redeployment from one cost centre to another.

Which will I am sure be of no comfort whatsoever to the guys who have either had contracts terminated or lost their hard won commands.

We have quite enough of that with BA pilots thinking they have a god given right to a slice of everything in UK aviation. Really don't need it from our supposed "colleagues" as well.

Best wishes to your furloughed engineers. Been there done that. Hope they get fixed up soon.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 14:06
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I don't understand, wasn't the plan all along to keep GSS at 3 airframes? Why would they upgrade pilots at GSS based on their continued operation of GSS-C when the presumed plan from the get go was to return the three GSS -400's to Atlas after they had been replaced by three -8's (which in turn would replace classics at Atlas)? Had you fellows at GSS been given the impression that you were going to keep GSS-C indefinitely? Or are the staffing downgrades a reflection of decreases in your -8 flying as well?
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 14:43
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There was always the intention to keep at least one of the 400's providing that work could be found. There was a potential contract but it was scuppered by last minute problems. The ability to take on a contract depends on having the resources in place so the upgrades were done in good faith and some were temporary in any case. Still not very nice to put in all that effort and then have it snatched away, but no one was misled. It is not the fault of GSS that the economy is in a bucket and that there are few contracts to be had.

Should the world economic situation improve then expansion will be back on the cards. The outlook for the next year or two is rather flat. Beyond that is anyone's guess. During that period, a significant percentage of the pilot force will retire so there will be some movement whatever happens.

Anyone with the ability to make accurate predictions beyond next month in this game must be wired in to some higher source than us mortals.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 17:47
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@zeddb

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We have quite enough of that with BA pilots thinking they have a god given right to a slice of everything in UK aviation. Really don't need it from our supposed "colleagues" as well. unquote.

No, I guess it's only Americans like Atlas who are entiteled to a slice of everything in world aviation. Let's only suggest an ACMI by a non-US operator for a US carrier.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 20:46
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Let's only suggest an ACMI by a non-US operator for a US carrier
Was true until last year. Now possible. Euroatlantic has got a 767 wet lease approved in US in 2011.
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Old 31st Jan 2012, 23:25
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Actually before 2011! The aircraft started ACMI flying around July 2010 (sorry but can't remember the exact date).

One question though. The Headquarters are in Miami, but is Lan Cargo a "pure" US carrier?

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When will Europe and its Airline stop this Yankee invasion?!
American carriers are taking jobs and contract away on the European market, not only flying to the USA but also intra-EU.
This is absolutely disgusting and a sign of the very weak EU who rather gets its employees and airlines raped by the Yanks than stand up and stop this nonsence!

FedEx, UPS etc. GO HOME OR HIRE EU PILOTS!!!!!!!!!!!
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