Air Contractors ATR pilots questions
 

Dear Air Contractor pilots (ATR),

How is the roster for the moment? How many days a month do you work? And in what kind of ON - OFF shedule?
What is the net salery after tax of an FO year 1 or 2?

Air Contractors jobs, payscales and entry requirements.

Cheers :cool:

Thanks, but I allready saw this information.

I'm interested how the "unstable" rosters on the ATR, actually turn out.
And what the net actual salary at the end of the month on the bank account is.

Hi,

The net salary will depend on where you live, if you are married or not, if you have children or not, if you have a good tax advisor or not, etc, etc...:ooh:

ppjn fairly accurate on the payscales. depends if uk or eurozone based.
Rosters well..... depends where you are based. how long is a piece of string?
Duties only unstable due to WX, sickness and noisey hotels.

Good day

I've had a good look around the web for info on Air Contractors and would be grateful if anyone in the know could help me out on a couple of points about ACL. As a SLF TP F/o who finishes back where I start everyday, get's to sleep in my own bed everynight, night freight op's are somewhat alien to me. As there's no future at my current operator i'm trying to get a feel for freight and see if it would be an option to move on to.

I would be grateful if someone could answer some queries I have about ACL.
Do they only take on type rated bods or will they take on experienced non-rated F/o's?
Do they have relationships with any particular TRTO?
Roughly speaking is it a Monday-Friday operation? Does this mean you report to your base on a Sunday night (for arguments sake) and thats you away on tour for 5 days? Therefore would commuting from the central belt of Scotland be an option?
Chances of a UK mainland base?
If you are based at a UK base do you get paid in Euros or Sterling as per PPJN?

Like I say, any info would be great as i'm just trying to weigh up my options.

Many thanks

Flynn

So net salery is above 3000€ on the bank account every month for beginning FO's I can see based on above information?

Regarding the roster and base...
How many days a month do you work? And is it 2 week / 2 week then?
Can you choose base on the EU mainland?

Is Mad Max still at the helm ?

Many thanks for the info hardcase. Air Contractors looks like a nice outfit to work for. I've always been against paying for ratings but the ATR actually looks like quite a good rating to have on your licence. With a couple of obsolute (but good aircraft) ratings on my licence, I might have to bite the bullet and splash some cash to move on me thinks. Freight might well be the future. Will give Sky Blue a call for further info.

Thanks again

still don't have an idea how the roster for FO's on the ATR looks like...

Do you have to be in the vicinity of the base on the week contactable?

United, you can also expect 3 weeks on 1 week off, if you are not as lucky as hardcase :E

A few quick questions for the chaps in the know;

If wanting to apply but don't have a rating, is it best to go through the route of getting a SSTR first or do Air Contractors not entertain that?

Basically, I can't work out if I should contact Sky Blue first or the airline directly.

Also, is the stirling contract a straight £/Euro conversion of what's on PPJN or is it a different beast altogether?

Finally, what are the chances of a MAN base?

Thanks guys.

EK

Hardcase, thanks for the reply. Sorry - I should actually read the thread before posting.

From what I can gather, even if I were to go down the SSTR route, there are enough out there with time on type who would obviously get in first.

Or in other words, hold on to your £15,000. Is this a fair comment?

EK

SSTR
 

As a matter of interest what sort of demand is there from the workforce for an outlying ATR base such as Toulouse? And how many crews staff such a base which, presumably, has just a single aircraft stationed there.

I ask as a TLS resident and ATR captain who might fancy being based closer to home.

Would the typical routes be the same (CDG) every night or is there a bit of variety thrown in.....such as weeks away at other outstations?

By the way I've read on PPJN that there are no DEC's currently taken...is that still the case or are there exceptions to that rule?

Thanks for your time!!

SJ

Hi SJ

the TLS base is for our TRE's only, as we use the sim there. Also PPJN is correct, no DEC's. There are lots of experienced FO's to be upgraded. 6 in the last 3months, more to come is the rumour...

:ok:

TLS-CDG-TLS is operated by Swiftair with their Emb 120 aircraft. They fly the same route 4 weeks a month, all the year, same captain and same FO :ouch:

Méteo France have an ATR42 based at TLS, maybe you can give a try.

Thanks guys.

Also, how many hours per year can you expect?

EK

I have averaged 400hrs a year...

:ok:

Same as hardcase; 400hrs/year, give or take 15hrs...

Cheers :cool:

Guys, listen to Hardcase and hotelmodemetar. You will need a type rating and almost without exception time on type. There will be no DEC as virtually all the FOs are eligable for upgrade.
The stirling salary is not comparable to the Euro as the rate was set years ago.
you will not get to choose your base, you go where the vacancies exist.
Travel to your base is at your own cost. Accommodation on some of the routes is at your own expense.
New joiners will be contract pilots and not employed by the company.
HOWEVER, the aircraft are well maintained by the engineers. All the training Capts are first class and even with a large number of different nationalities flying everyone gets on well.
The ATR pilots rep does outstanding work. She is the best man for the job.

Hi Chaps,

PPJN has the following;

Does anyone know if the new recruits had a TR with time on type?

Thanks,

EK

Thanks hardcase,

That doesn't surprise me in the slighest. To say it's an employers market out there is an understatement!

It seems that there is no real way in to ACL as a low hourd instructor. Even if I bought a TR it seems.....

Happy flying anyway.

EK

It's a pitty they dont consider low hours non rated guys. I'd love to fly for them!!!

Rated on ATR, 350h on Type and 900TT, and that was still not enough to go to DUB for the interview, so no, you won't get in without a TR+ experience

A large part of the selection is done on applications/CVs before interviewing. Incidentally, the Ops manual mentions that new joiners should have an ATR rating and a minimum of 500hrs on type. It has sometimes been less, but that's unlikely to happen these days.

Cheers :cool:

You can always apply to Ryanair and easyjet, they LOVE cadets!!!!

selection process for air contractors
 

Hey there,


Just wondering of anyone might be able to give me some pointers on the selection process with Air Contractors? I've heard an aptitude test, 2 interviews and a sim. Is this true? The aptitude test... Maths and English? How many q's and in what time allowed? 2 interviews? and the sim?

I know lots of questions and Ive already started the swotting but just want to make sure Im fully prepared.

ANy info would be extremely grateful!!!!

Also interested in getting in there but was under the impression it was all quiet on the recruiment front there at the moment (I know they had some limited recruitment recently.) Are they currently looking?

Im not 100% sure Im hearing yes and no. But as a just incase Ill start getting the head into the books. I think they've a holding pool so maybe they're working off that.

There are also some 3 or 4 very exp. ATR FOs in a holding pool, one has just been given the nod but no further recruitment. Just hope the ATR fleet is secure given the resent acquisition of more 737s ?