Boeing rethinks 74-8
 

Interesting article on Air Cargo Newshere.

:ouch:

I hear that too...
The 400 has already become yesterday's 200. The first CV 400s are at the 100,000 hour mark... time flies...........

True, but are those 106 Freighter orders enough to keep the program viable? And if so, then what's all the fuss about?

All in all, not a very positive development I guess.

T2E

I'd love to be a customer when Boeing 748F team gives a presentation, immediatley followed by the 744F conversion team. I bet you could play them off against each other all day. Only one winner in my opinion though!

The cargo slump is here and now; in 2009! But come mid 2010, airlines will be scrambling for new freighters to manage an unprecedented growth of air cargo. But not only because of the end of the recession cycle, but more so because of the population bomb. Ever more people wanting more things delivered next day, from perishables to durables to junk. Just as before. :ok:

Yes Glueball - that alone should do it, but I believe that 2010 may be perhaps too optimistic.

Also, the much cheaper maritime industry continues to encroach on airfreight. The new generation's of maritime fleet shipping will soon claim HKG to California travel time in as little as about 5 days.

What if this is just Boeing powerplay in order not to have companies running in trying to get the best deal possible; like Ryanair are obviously are trying with the 737-800 and A320? Maybe they just want to maintain prices and not spoil the prices on their prize horse?

No argument about improved maritime shipping, however...HKG to west coast in five days?

A tad optimistic, me thinks.:}

especially if your shipping route is via the somalia coast....
shipping is a risky business these days- fly air cargo and get your
goods this year

They will be interesting to trim :)!
5 Extra Pallets positions past the rear door!
3x Up top 2x Down

CommitedToStay

106 is a total number of orders for 747-8, that includes 28 pax aircraft and 78 freighters.
I understood last Friday Boeing has announced 747-8I (pax) programme will be scrapped, freighter to be continued. Lufthansa should be very happy :eek:

In the worst scenario Boeing could manage to move the B747/800F orders to the B777/200F. However this scenario means for the next future no more nose-door cargo freighter.

Not true.

And from Boeing's internal email:

BOEING777X

The story you posted a link on is not really reassuring regarding pax version, it is rather full of politically correct words which are usually used when you need to hide the truth for a while. And the story is a week old now.

The story is a pure fabrication; Boeing has made no such announcement (yet). :}

Of course, Airbus made similar statements when the A380F was effectively dropped when UPS/FedEx cancelled their orders. Its likely the phraseology is geared towards the SEC etc rather than mass media which is happy to feed in a frenzy off an email with no validity.

:)

FlyLowCost . . .
 

The B744F nor the B748F are valid comparisons with the B772F/(B773F . . ?), neither by volume nor by payload-range.

GB I know it, but if for any reason Boeing cancels the B748F project the only valid alternative today is the B777F, since I don't think someone would buy again B744ERF.

^

Neither 747-400F or -400ERF are available for sale any longer, quite sure that thats been the case for a while now.

Boeing's Chief Engineer on the 747, Michael Teal believes the airplane has another 40 more years ahead of it.


I talked with him in Seattle and he revealed some interesting insight into the 747-8 program.