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EMERALD1 12th Nov 2008 13:57

I guess you'll be doing a lot more than a short series once those Christmas cards & parcels start circulating

Good luck

E1

SM82 12th Nov 2008 15:21

Nice to hear they are still flying

mikehammer 12th Nov 2008 16:00

Good luck Jan Ops 1. Stay in the fight.

cruiseczechs 13th Nov 2008 08:49

Saw the 748 fleet (including OE) when I visited BLK on a charter on Sunday, a few of them looked sad and neglected, but glad to hear that at least a couple of them still flying.

Fingers crossed for all concerned. :D

Mucky Devil 15th Nov 2008 09:05

You are from Turkmenistan then!
 
(ASB) Ashgabat Airport Departures, Arrivals, and Information

Say Again Slowly

Nice carpet, but a bit small for travelling home to Ashgabat.
I have put a link to Turkmenistan Airlines as i think it might be more comfortable for you.

Say again s l o w l y 15th Nov 2008 10:15

Thanks for that, but I think I'll risk the carpet, it has a better safety record.......

Glad to see I was wrong.

FlyingOfficerKite 2nd Dec 2008 19:26

Just to keep this Thread on the first page!

Any news or views?

It's all gone very quiet.

FOK :)

splitscreen fan 3rd Dec 2008 20:47

I m Sure Andy is going to be working his bol--x off the christmas .
keep up the good work and dont listen to the haters

dada 10th Dec 2008 07:11

WHERE ARE ANDYs BOLLOCKS NOW ? are they still parked up at blk or doing something useful other than looking pritty.

JAN OPS 1 22nd Dec 2008 07:43

Update
 
Good morning all, and may I say a Happy Christmas & a prosperous New Year to all our readers.

Our short series of flights for the Post Office went off as planned. The CAA have completed their review of the TRTO application and we expect written approval shortly. The CAA Flight Ops performed an audit and that went OK apart from the normal moans about crew & paperwork!

There have been many comments posed about the lack of flying, so perhaps a few words on the commercial front may be in order. Unlike passenger flying, where it is down to the airline to select the route, advertise it and then start flying, the vast majority of cargo operations are on behalf of specific customers, such as the Post Office, Courier Companies or Freight Agents. When a contract is signed, it is normally for a specified period, with specific break clauses. Thus we have to wait until the contracts are up for renewal before we get a chance to bid for the work, unless, for example, another operator goes out of business.

Ad-hoc work is very variable, with a lot being motor manufacturer based which is going to take a big hit as most motor plants seem to be going on short time working.

That said, in the current business environment, a lot of customers are reviewing their air networks to ensure that they meet their requirements. This may mean that customers are looking to downsize from a larger aircraft to something a bit smaller, or they may decide that a specific route needs a separate operation. Conversely this may mean that routes are combined and need to use a larger aircraft. We are in constant communication with potential customers and running quotations for all sorts of operations. However, while it is still unclear how deep/long this period of recession is going to be, customers are waiting to see what happens. Luckily we are in a position where we can wait out this delay without it costing the earth.

As a final point, there have been some derogatory postings, about our progress (or perceived lack of). We feel this is a little unfair, as we have tried to keep the broader aviation community apprised of our progress (where are the similar threads from West Atlantic, HD Air etc?), while respecting commercial sensitivity. While we will endeavour to keep this thread going in the spirit in which it was started, the people who need to know do not rely on this for their information.

Rgds JAN OPS 1

mikehammer 22nd Dec 2008 18:44

Well said. The very fact that you're still hanging in there is a testament to the strength of your company and its business model (excuse the hackneyed management psychobabble) in these slow times.

Once again good luck.

FlyingOfficerKite 23rd Dec 2008 20:01

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year to all those involved.

KR

FOK :)

SM82 14th Jan 2009 21:46

Been a few weeks since last update anybody with any news?

lionel 22nd Jan 2009 09:45

Any update on the TRTO?

The CAA have completed their review of the TRTO application and we expect written approval shortly.

Doctor Cruces 26th Jan 2009 11:33

"The CAA Flight Ops performed an audit and that went OK apart from the normal moans about crew & paperwork!"

Wasn't that part of the original problem? Standing by to be corrected if I'm wrong.

JAN OPS 1 27th Jan 2009 10:53

Hi all
 
TRTO : At the moment there is no point running courses etc until there is work for the crews. This is to both save resources and not to build people's hopes up during this time of diminishing crew opportunities

AUDIT : When you only have a small number of operations to be checked the CAA went through every set of return flight paperwork, and all they came up with was a minor mathematical error and a couple of missing signatures. Hardly the end of the world (you find me any airline that doesn't have on-going problems with crews completing paperwork).

JAN OPS 1

Ballymoss 27th Jan 2009 20:51

Jan Ops 1
 

At the moment there is no point running courses etc until there is work for the crews
That is the really disturbing part of your otherwise upbeat post.I doubt you can answer if or when that work might come.....

Rgds
The Moss:ok:

Say again s l o w l y 28th Jan 2009 14:28

9 months without much flying? Ouch, someone is taking a bath on this big time.

High'n'Low 29th Jan 2009 11:07

About 6 mths ago I saw one of the good old 748s on approach into Liverpool. Brilliant sight. That was some fabulous flying experience. Any chance of a visit for nostalgias sake JAN OPS??
Hope it goes well for you.

dada 1st Feb 2009 16:24

saw a 748 climbing of 10 today at bpl - lovely sight, even lovelyer sound. things looking up???????????????


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