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JanetFlight 25th Jun 2009 04:02

BTW...does anyone knows here where the EX-102 that spent last years in Istanbul SAW its now operating, or for whom...according some sources she left again after a few years in almost derelict condition the turkish lands and took to the skies some weeks ago...:confused:

AAL 25th Jun 2009 11:29

Would love to know also. She is years over calender and lacking some serious technical attention. Thats why she came unstuck in SAW in the first place.

Angel`s Playmate 28th Jun 2009 03:56

Spotted S2-AET , displaying Zoom Titles , SHJ June 27.

Flanked by a DC-8, a DC-10 and 2 classic 74`s.

What a sight nowadays.:ok:

wonderdog 5th Jul 2009 15:32

DC 8 and DC 10
 
Hello Angel's Playmate,

Whose were the DC8 and DC10 ?

wd

Angel`s Playmate 6th Jul 2009 08:44

It was Heavylift with the 8 and Avient with the 10.

Cheers

Earl 22nd Jul 2009 04:48

This smells like a orange air/ mugrabi rat.

FAA license, Jordan based.BARQAVIATION (FAA L-1011 Captains & First Officers - Jordan
Web Site: Barq Aviation


He never gives up does he?
Buyer Beware

mole man 23rd Jul 2009 20:05

Thanks Earl

I am a L1011 Loadmaster looking for work but will give these a miss.

Mole man:ugh:

OldCessna 24th Jul 2009 01:38

The latest on Barq is "Capt M" is still trying to move an ex ATA L1011 out of VCV (Victorville)

Unfortunately VAL is non too bright when it comes to the L1011 and have had several engine problems to overcome. (scratch head & ponder?)

Supposed to leave mid August, so 4 weeks late already

Earl 24th Jul 2009 05:09

Probably a good idea to avoid this one.
His load planing and load sheets to include the Told cards are all ex Air Atlanta Tristar, he even said he just changed the names, SOP's were AAI also, which he never followed.
Safety and Emergency training ID will just be issued at your first flight, you don't have to attend. just take and sign!!!!!
Emergency Training must have been when we shut an engine own due to no oil pressure abeam Bermuda and had to return to Mia enroute to Lisbon with one of the remaining engines borderline on high vibes with N194AT.
Validation, a joke, pencil whipped by the Jordan CAA.
For someone that breaks this many regulations, C checks, A/D's etc, funny how he screws you on the pay.
But what else can you expect from someone that cheats his way around the system?
He is just an accident waiting on a place to happen.

MELDreamer 6th Aug 2009 00:20

N163AT
 
Lockheed 1011-500 msn1229 N163AT ferried 03-04aug09 PHX-SNN-AQJ, for Barq Air

razorrawe 11th Aug 2009 22:30

Old lady stuck in desert
 
I see that ex Caledonian Tristar G-BBAF now TT-DWE is languishing at the
Emirates auto museum may be her days in the air have finally ended

glhcarl 12th Aug 2009 21:28


I see that ex Caledonian Tristar G-BBAF now TT-DWE is languishing at the
Emirates auto museum may be her days in the air have finally ended
Lockheed records indicate s/n 193N-1093 ex G-BBAF, 3C-QRL, A8-AAB and TT-DWE was attrited (written off) in January 2009.

razorrawe 14th Aug 2009 14:50

well she may be written of now because she has been towed across the desert to this museum how the hell they got it there because the nearest
airfield is a long way from the museum (not that i have been there) check Google earth there is a picture of her at the museum being towed

AviationSam 18th Aug 2009 09:17

L1011 Pics
 
Earl, can you assure the authenticity of those images? Have they in fact been taken at the Fujairah Airport and have you personally observed the damage in the Tail Section?

Earl 18th Aug 2009 09:52

AviationSam,
I took those pictures myself on 21 may 2009 at Fujairah.
The damage may be from leaking skydrol as someone said in an earlier post, did not see it until I looked at the pictures later as we were doing a quick turn and was only on the ground a short while.

dc10driver 18th Aug 2009 10:27

Well it never ceases to amaze me! Just looked at the web site, same gang still hacking away. Now that I maybe looking for a job AGAIN.......I may have to call them! Yikes....got to pay the rent.
Sure would be nice to fly the Tristar again, what a beauty she was.
Good luck to all

AviationSam 18th Aug 2009 10:35

Thanks for the explanation Earl. Scydrol Leakage may be possible, as the Aircraft has been moved to Ras Al Kaimah without any repair.

superspotter 18th Aug 2009 16:15

Hi Guys;
I have not read all the posts on this thread so forgive me if it has already been posted but c/n 1201 is now registered S9-GAR and for several weeks has been parked in Dhaka, Bangladesh. There are a couple of pictures of it if you care to look on my site at Superspotter's gallery by Clive Hindmarch :: Fotopic.Net under the dhaka gallery :)

OldCessna 18th Aug 2009 19:02

It's apparently registered to Goliaf Air who at one time were linked to the notorious arms dealer Victor Anatoliyevich Bout.

Goliaf Air and a British company were suspected of delivering arms in Sudan

glhcarl 18th Aug 2009 20:59


There are a couple of pictures of it if you care to lokk on my site at http://superspottersgallery,fotopic.net under the dhaka gallery http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/smile.gif
The link does not appear to work?

411A 19th Aug 2009 01:08

Change the comma to a 'dot' between superspottersgallery and fotopic...then should work OK.

superspotter 19th Aug 2009 07:07

Whoops, sorry!! Superspotter's gallery by Clive Hindmarch :: Fotopic.Net :)

fergineer 19th Aug 2009 08:10

The old girl still looks good......many a happy hour flying her between Dublin and NY........

J31 MAN 26th Aug 2009 09:15

Photos: Lockheed L-1011-385-1 TriStar 1 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net


One less Tristar......


J

superspotter 30th Aug 2009 11:58

Guys;
For those of you that were interested in S9-GAR, the Tristar that has been parked up for a few months now in Dhaka, earlier this morning I managed to purloin a ramp vehicle and drive over to the machine and get a much better quality shot than my last one. She is looking rather bedraggled now.
The photo can be seen under the Dhaka gallery heading on Superspotter's gallery by Clive Hindmarch :: Fotopic.Net

Earl 30th Aug 2009 18:21

J31 man,
Thanks for the photos and link.
Someone posted on there that they are not interested in the galley.
That is not the galley, just 2 lifts to the down galley.

CR2 31st Aug 2009 00:08

Erm, can we leave the spotting now? Posts made sofar will remain. I believe the topic was something to do with Cyprus & 1011s ;) ; Is that dead and buried?

411A 31st Aug 2009 03:16


Is that dead and buried?
No doubt about it.

glhcarl 1st Sep 2009 14:15


Erm, can we leave the spotting now? Posts made sofar will remain. I believe the topic was something to do with Cyprus & 1011s http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif ; Is that dead and buried?
Why the change of attude? Just a few posts ago you were participating in the spotting, even thanking a spotter for his input.:ugh:

See #390 and #378

OldCessna 1st Sep 2009 19:39

A few updates mateys!

Privilege Jet has changed registration to Honduras. Strange one there?

Capt M is working on moving his next ex ATA L1011 out of VCV and getting ready for the Hajj.

I think the spotters are useful to keep tabs on all the movements personally CR2

AAL 1st Sep 2009 20:28

IMHumbleO, this has not degenerated into merely a spotters thread.

It rather focusses on firstly an old lady and one of the best ever built old ladies to grace the sky, of which very few still barely capable to fly has for the wrong reasons (price?) fallen in the hands of some very dubious and shady characters/operators.

The "New Operation Out of Cyprus" was to be just such a venture, there are still some others going down now, and some will attempt in the near future.

This thread has saved quite a few well meaning crew from burning their fingers and getting involved in situations to their detriment, and that they would have (or now do) regretted.

It serves as a barometer of what some of these dubious scoundrels are up to and I am sure that many unsuspecting crews have received very timely forewarning of the associated perils involved.

At the beginning I would in my wildest dreams never have guessed that the thread would over time have drawn near 50 000 views.

Please bear with us CR2, because many of us have been affected by some of these discussed situations and continue to learn.

411A 2nd Sep 2009 00:23


Privilege Jet has changed registration to Honduras. Strange one there?
Not when you understand the reasons why, it ain't.
Rather large plans in the works....so I'm told.;)

Earl 3rd Sep 2009 18:35

Exactly where was this Cyprus operation going to get the Tristars and crews anyway?
Was dead in the water from the start!
This was some kind of Universal airlines that maybe failed with the 747 operation also.
I
This thread is very informative for Tristar crews, as many of us have worked, done ferry flights moving airplanes and have not been paid or cheated with only partial pay, some with no tickets back home.
I hope it is left open to help other crews.
I dont think you will find any other thread here on pprune that goes this far to make sure crews are not cheated, paid correctly and has credibility.
Tristar crews are a small group now and we do stick together. even though most of us have other jobs on different equipment.
Personally I have only flown for 3 companies that were reliable with the Tristar, Saudia, Air Atlanta and Globejet.
Perhaps it should be relabeled as Tristar beware. or Tristar The Good, The Bad or The Ugly, LOL.
The crew it may have helped to avoid to work for the Mahgrabis/Barq air, the thaisky, skyeyes, orange air, and a few others.
On another note I did hear from a fly on the wall that the UAE GCAA has shut down operations for ZOOM airlines.
Guess here in the UAE they check all records to include the Tristar ones. records such as engine A/D'S and do make sure the manufactures Lockheed and Rolls Royce are followed.
Registration of convenience wont work here.
That made up alternate method of compliance for those 522 engines is starting to possibly be shown.
Cannot pull the wool over the GCAA eyes!
If you are one of these shady operators and have to divert, don't do it here, use another alternate, otherwise could be a issue.
Guess that's why the Skyeyes airplane was impounded here initially.
Anyone else hear about this?
I got this info 3rd hand but think it is reliable.
If we can rename this thread please offer some advice, but it has helped many people.
Maybe someone would spend his last income hoping to get ahead, only to find he was cheated in the end.
This is a problem that needs to be addressed and stopped with these shady Thai, Indian and mostly Jordanian Tristar operators.
Leave it open CR2, or at least provide us guidance on a new thread.
Earl

411A 3rd Sep 2009 23:03


On another note I did hear from a fly on the wall that the UAE GCAA has shut down operations for ZOOM airlines.
Correct, aircraft parked, crews sent home, last I heard.

OldCessna 4th Sep 2009 12:23

I appreciate all the contributions to this thread.

It is certainly is amazing how many fly by night operations are planned and are stopped because of the "watchers" that are on this site! Not to mention the crews that have avoided getting stiffed!

The L1011 Tristar world is a shrinking one, and what goes around comes around very quickly.

The Hajj is not far off and the same old people are getting things ready!

The Privilege Jet operation is a very interesting development especially registering the aircraft in Honduras? Must be the new Sierra Leone?

The deputy MD of Privilege just happens to be the deputy MD of Elite.

Whats that all about?

411A 4th Sep 2009 13:32


The Privilege Jet operation is a very interesting development especially registering the aircraft in Honduras? Must be the new Sierra Leone?
Quite the opposite, actually....a Sierra Leone, it ain't.
Interesting plans afoot, all revealed in due course.

OldCessna 4th Sep 2009 15:20

411A

You must be referring to the tie up with Rollins Air in Honduras.

rollinsair.com

Looks like TACA has problems with the Hondurans over overdue fees (what else is new there?).

Privilege Jet will provide charters to Honduras & Caribbean from Eastern Europe.



411A are you flying with Privilege Jet these days?

411A 4th Sep 2009 19:26


Privilege Jet will provide charters to Honduras & Caribbean from Eastern Europe.
Among other places, yes.
This program is under the direction of the original marketing director of Laker...the original Laker, an old friend.
A second airplane is a distinct possibility.

Earl 4th Sep 2009 21:50

Could be some work for a good Tristar company operating a -500 ACMI for LAB from Santa Cruz Bolivia to Madrid.
We did this with Globejet for a long time, until LAB had money issues.
But the company is coming back (LAB).
Was down there last December, good route for someone to pick up.
Central and South America may be a good place for this old bird.

Angel`s Playmate 6th Sep 2009 17:50

Earl,

you are right. The UAE CAA seems to run it down on Zoom.

S2-AET still in SHJ (as of 06Sep), dusted in on the Cargo apron.:{

The Honduras -500 looks like HR-AVN cn1242, ex TAP/Air Transat.:ok:

Happy ldgs

Angel


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