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Lion 01 23rd Dec 2008 03:53

Move Forward
 
Let me ask all of you who are concerned about the pay. Does Midex pay you eventually (except for those who have medical issues and problems obtaining UAE license which is a seperate issue)? THe way I see it is that the latest someone would get paid is at the most 11 days late (assuming a person starts time off on the sast day of the month which is not right per the contract and unfair). But at least you get paid. Trying going to work for Orex where you don't get paid and get fired if you ask for your pay.

In time, I believe the issue of getting paid while you are out of the UAE will be resolved. But the first time that one of the crews fails to return from his time off it will return to the way it is now.

Heilhaavir 24th Dec 2008 14:50


Let me ask all of you who are concerned about the pay. Does Midex pay you eventually (except for those who have medical issues and problems obtaining UAE license which is a seperate issue)? THe way I see it is that the latest someone would get paid is at the most 11 days late (assuming a person starts time off on the sast day of the month which is not right per the contract and unfair). But at least you get paid. Trying going to work for Orex where you don't get paid and get fired if you ask for your pay.

In time, I believe the issue of getting paid while you are out of the UAE will be resolved. But the first time that one of the crews fails to return from his time off it will return to the way it is now.
Why would you need lower yourself to comparing the BS going on at Orex with your company? The fact that Orex is screwed up should have no bearing on the conditions at Midex, nor does it make it a better place to work for. If the contract states that your crewmembers shall be paid on the 10th of the month, pay should be in everyone's account on the 10th of the month, period. Pretty simple no? Does your contract state that if any crewmember does not come back from his days off the rest of the group will have to suffer the consequences? ("But the first time that one of the crews fails to return from his time off it will return to the way it is now"). If you have a problem with an individual crewmember, deal with it with the legal means you have available to you, don't punish the rest of the group. Honor your contract and treat your pilot group as well as you were treated by your previous employer and you might not have to try and defend yourself each time someone posts his discontent...

aviator1979 24th Dec 2008 20:11

Hi everyone,
Is Midex still hiring FO s for A300 ? And who is the chief pilot ? Thanks ...

airbusgus_2003 25th Dec 2008 02:52

Breaches of contract allowed under what conditions?
Steer clear of this fly by night operation.

Lion 01 25th Dec 2008 04:04

Fly by Night
 
I still believe that the pay issue will be worked out. And yes, it is a breach of contract but the company is is the UAE and it is hard to fight it. Give it time and let some of the issues with the crewmembers causing trouble die down. Still a good place to work with a 5 weeks on 3 weeks off schedule and they are not going anywhere despite previous comments.

Merry Christmas Pat.

Heilhaavir 25th Dec 2008 08:58

Merry Xmas to you & the gang.

tomjonesca 28th Dec 2008 07:45

Midex Employee...
 
As an employee of Midex, I have to echo Lion 01s remarks. This is a good place to work, the pay is more than fair, the benefits package is good but it would be nice if the medical insurance would include the USA (it may in the future). We are affored large apartments free of charge. As of yet, nobody has to share an apartment. Al Ain isn't a bad place to live, it's a little quiet, but a descent place.

This company is owned by one Man. He makes the rules: we have the option to accept them or not. Nobody is holding a gun to our heads to work here. We do it by choice. Anyone that says otherwise has never worked here. Trust me when I say I have worked at much worse places.

Those that post here with their negative comments are either truely mis-informed or use to work here, got canned for doing something they shouldn't have or couldn't get a job here because they couldn't qualify. If you don't work here, then what you post is only a rumor.

Yes, our pay comes to us every month. The only bad part is... you have to be IN COUNTRY to get that pay. So depending on when you leave here to go home, it could be an impact on some. Why is it this way... because there is ALWAYS a few out there that try and work the system, cheat the company they work for, do what they can to milk someone out of money they don't always deserve and for that: the rest of us must pay the price. It's not easy, the pay system we currently have. But I truely believe that as time goes by, we hire crew members that want to be here, we will change the owners thoughts on this as he finds those that are here, return for work. When they are ready to not come here, they will give their 30 day notice and move on.

As far as the guy that made the comment "how long are you 747s guys going to hang in there"... me, I'm here for the long haul. I get paid, I get my medical, I get my roundtrip airline tickets... I have a job. The flying will come. It has already started.

We will be hiring A300 crews in the near future. 5 of the 6 planes are now online. I don't know when the 6th will come on. The 747-200, from my understanding, will be the only classic flown here... unless a really good deal on a really good plane shows up and then who knows. Midex LLC owns several 747-400s. It is RUMORED, from the owner himself at our last crew meeting, that he may bring 2 of them online sometime next year. I'm sure this will depend on how business goes. It's a wait and see game.

And for those you that have to ask questions like "are you management"... no, I'm not. I'm just a PFE glad to be here and have a job.

Happy Holidays to all of you...

Tom

tomjonesca 28th Dec 2008 07:53

Hey Pat...
 
The Doctor asked me for your Phone Number?

Tom

Heilhaavir 28th Dec 2008 10:02

LOL, wish him a Happy Hanukkah!

747fanatic 30th Dec 2008 05:29

That explains it. PFE's are a dying breed hanging by the last thread. Majority of the PFE's are unemployed and desperate, the few jobs that are available are half way around the world with questionable operations such as Midex. So yes i am not surprised why Lion01 & Tomjones are just happy to be employed.
Good luck guys! I hope the Classic flies someday.

Lion 01 31st Dec 2008 05:24

B747 Operational
 
A quick message to B747 Fanatic. The Midex Airlines B747 completed its first operational trip on the 28th/29th of December 2008. The trip was from Al Ain -Beirut - Sulaymaniyah - Al Ain.

As for your negative remarks about PFE's, I guess you must me on of the pilots that was either released from Midex Airlines or wishes you had a job at Midex Airlines. Either way, it's just your opinion and if you ask most pilots that fly or have flown the classic they will tell you that they are very happy to have the "dying breed hanging on by a thread" PFE sitting between and behind them to back them up.

I also don't understand your comments about questionable operations. The company is well funded, good airplanes to fly (no shortcuts on maintenance), and well maintained. The only shortfall I see is with a shortage of staff in operations which is being resolved.

I hear Phuket Air is hiring, maybe you can go and check out there operation. Then you will know what a questionable operation is.

Best of Luck in the New Year!

747fanatic 31st Dec 2008 06:26

Never was with Midex or have any intention to join them. There are better jobs out there, with new shiny jets, a solid business plan and a management that cares.

I sadly happen to know some very disgruntled Midex employees who are too afraid to speak up.

Good to know the queen is finaly back in the air. Hopefuly will catch u in Orly some day.

Dengue_Dude 31st Dec 2008 15:47

747Fanatic
 
If you've no intention etc . . .

Why are you so adamantly commenting on this thread?

Leave them in peace, my view (yes it's only mine) is - anyone who has a job flying should be happy and even grateful, because mortgages don't pay themselves.

Some jobs are good, some bad and some indifferent, but they're JOBS.

Midex, good luck guys and for every payday that passes with money going into your bank accounts - be thankful, there are many people sat on their butts without a pay check.

Good luck, and a Happy and Prosperous New Year!

B737-GUY 31st Dec 2008 23:58

What a deal
 
Hi,

Everybody here seems to be talking about pay check and they just happy with that - no one seems to be career oriented or has any job satisfaction!! Maybe they are are gone old and few years left in this field.
As regards to PFE, they are a dying breed and I don't blame them.

-What do you feel the first thing in the moring?
a. I love my job and my career.
b. Thank God I have a job.
c. I hate my job.
d. I am only here for my paycheck.

Wishing you all a very happy new and a prosperous new year..

Hi Pat..

Later guys...

B737-Guy

The Sandman 1st Jan 2009 09:36

In my experience FOs are neutral or negative about PFEs whilst Capts love 'em. Funny thing about that, wonder why??

Earl 4th Jan 2009 05:52

You make me laugh 747 fanatic.
PFE's are a dying breed and desperate hanging by a last thread?
What has this to do with this thread?
Bad choice of words here 747 fanatic, you have something against the F/E?
Someone posted Phuket air may be good for you.
But they don't have the shiny new jets, or 2 man cockpits you dream of and I know most of the PFE's there would eat you alive and put you in your place no matter how desperate you think they are.
Ask the last C/P that had an attitude at Phuket, did not use CRM and thought he was Top Gun and the PFE was useless.
Phuket lost a lot of good pilots because of this C/P thinking and lack of management abilities.
If you have a job that pays with the current aviation downturn you should consider yourself lucky.

747fanatic 4th Jan 2009 06:48

PIA 747, where does that come from?

i appreciate how the old classic guys are defending Midex.
i am thinking all of you have recieved your fair share of the stick from previous employers and really hope that this one sticks.

This is not a personnal attack just a warning for those who may fall for the rosy stories here.

I am going to go fly my shiny jet! are you?:rolleyes:

Earl 4th Jan 2009 07:00

747 fanatic, edited the above post for you.

B737-GUY 6th Jan 2009 07:42

Seems crew members are being treated like.. Sh*t... I wish the owner was running an airline here in the US... would have drowned in law suits...

You have the experience and want to fly something new!!! go to India or China.. they are looking for pilots with experience.. Hey.. lot of experience pilots are Flying the RJs (nothing wrong with that) they love the job, enoy the flying and the benefits with a maid service!! having your uniform ready for work!!..with shoes polished!!! I love that!!

Check the web out!!

B737-GUY 6th Jan 2009 08:14

SU
 
Hi Lion KING!! (SU)

You seem to controlling this forum and know it all.. I was reading the forum,, and came across a name Capt. Abdul Saboor.. is he the same guy who worked with Saudia..years ago!!..

My dad was asking about it..

Let know..

Thanks

Lion 01 6th Jan 2009 11:28

SU
 
I'm not sure where you are coming from B737-Guy about the crewmember treatment. Yes, there are problems at Midex Airlines but many are working to resolve the issues/problems. Also, those who feel that they have been mistreated is because they don't understand the rules and the requirements in the UAE. The company is a start-up and as I'm sure you know there will always be growning pains. This is the owners first experience with an airline and he is learning. This is a good place to work and in time it will be a GREAT place to work.

As for Mr. Saboor, yes he was at Saudia early in his career. He is no longer with Midex and has moved on to Orex Airlines. Might try posting on their thread.

PS Not sure why someone who is not involved with the airline s choosing to post on this thread.

747fanatic 6th Jan 2009 12:46

I am getting PMs from Midex employees and those in the process of recruitment.

The company is ridden with inconsistencies in policies at the expense of the candidates/new hires. Employment is offered by one only to be retracted by the other.

The recruitment manager needs to go through some serious HR grooming.

Lion 01 6th Jan 2009 13:01

More comments from a someone who is getting rumors from crewmembers who don't have the big picture.

slowto280 7th Jan 2009 00:45

Hiring update?
 
3 man airplanes may not be 'shiny and new', but they can still be 'shiny' and thank God they still remain viable in some markets. Any hiring update for the A300 (even though my current job is 'perfect and problem free' just as all of my previous jobs have been........)? PM works if desired. :ouch:

Storpikk 7th Jan 2009 23:03

Inconsistant
 
747fanatic is correct, Midex is riding a wave now that will come crashing down on them once the economy recovers.

The Manager of Training is completely random in his hiring, says one thing and does something completely different. :=:=......Very unprofessional.

justcantwait 8th Jan 2009 09:49

Hi
 
Are you norsk, storpikk? In that case pm me, pls.

tomjonesca 8th Jan 2009 10:46

Some of you make me laugh...
 
As a happy Midex employee... I read some of the postings here and have to laugh. This 747fanatic guy comes on here... never been an employee here (or so he says) spouting dribble of things he knows nothing about. He says he is only repeating what his "friends" who work here are saying to him but are afraid to speak up. I find that very hard to believe. Most every Pilot or Flight Engineer I have ever known (33 years in this business) had the balls to speak up when things weren't right. Are his "friends" such woosies that they have to get someone else to do their bidding. I hope I never have to fly with someone like that. My guess... you fly some little Cesna and use the 747 title to make yourself look good. Be a man, tell us who you are.

Working in the UAE is not like working in the USA. If you come here thinking it is, you came to the wrong place. The rules and guidelines here are nothing like what you're use to. The owner of this company makes and changes the way things are done at his whim... and he can do that because he owns the company. We may not always like some of the things that are done, but this company pays well, pays ontime and if there is anything wrong with your pay, they fix it. Were given our own apartments to live, transportation to and from work and complete uniforms.

You just have adapt to the way things are here... STOP complaining about it because you ain't going to change it... and know that you have a job when others are looking at layoffs. This is a startup airline, with all the same pains as any other start up. This company is well funded, owned by the man who owns one of the largest freight forwarding companys in Europe and will be here... even when the economy rebounds. We have 2 more 747s coming on property in April.

I said it before... here it is again... if you DON'T work here... then you don't know... no matter what your "friends" have to say. This is a good company and it gets better everyday. Find someplace to spread your trash.

Tom

Dengue_Dude 8th Jan 2009 17:04

Well said.

Now that's a chap I could communicate with.

As I said earlier, every month that the money is in the bank (a few days late or not) is another mortgage payment made and food on the table.

Good luck guys, long may it continue.

Give my regards to Mr Casey - we spoke in the hotel in Paris.

aviator1979 8th Jan 2009 18:15

Any recruitment details appreciated ?Who is in charge for hiring pilots ? And contact detais please . "Capt.David McLane" How can i contact him ?
Regards,

Icarus2008 8th Jan 2009 19:55

nothing ventured nothing gained!
 
Indeed, Midex got a great B747 from Martin Air, former COO did a great job until the day he delivered it, and then voila!
Numerous losers ex-Phuket joined including a red-herring pomm marked for molesting children while camping in JED during his first, and last Hajj.

The American F/E running the show is a back-stabber brought from Focus Air, and sold his skin for some more coins of silver that will not last, as he is not a qualified individual for running the show, neither any of the Italian campers who think they got Lybian oil back in history.:eek:

Should you want to show Zero (0) hours on your logbook for the past 6 months flying the B747's this is the job you need. Presently SIM sessions are being organized in USA, and possible affidavits for arrest of the molester issued if he turns up into any U.S immigration posts with his U.K Passport. Also tagged by FAA and CAA for several violations back in Phuket and Ocean. U.A.E CAA in liaison with Jordanian CAA and Middle East GCC for additional reports being audit for unbecoming behavior from training dept postings.:=

atlast 8th Jan 2009 20:28


The American F/E running the show is a back-stabber brought from Focus Air, and sold his skin for some more coins of silver that will not last, as he is not a qualified individual for running the show, neither any of the Italian campers who think they got Lybian oil back in history.
Dear Icarus,
the person of whom you speak is a class act, both in and out of the airplane. His credentials are impeachable and at one time, before retiring, he held the toughest and most coveted of all 747 FE jobs.
Now Sir/Madame, is there anyone willing to vouch for you?

Sincerely

Atlast

Earl 9th Jan 2009 01:57

This is getting a bit childish here and starting to smell like B/S.
Midex pays there crews, gives them 3 weeks off with a round trip ticket home every 5 weeks.
The American F/E running the show treats the crews well.
Those posting bad things here don't even work for the company!

Heilhaavir 9th Jan 2009 02:33


The American F/E running the show is a back-stabber brought from Focus Air, and sold his skin for some more coins of silver that will not last, as he is not a qualified individual for running the show, neither any of the Italian campers who think they got Lybian oil back in history
Icarus, I know DM personally & professionally. I have not only flown the line with him but worked with him in the training dept as well, at Focus Air. He knows this airplane better than you probably ever will.

The Moron Observer 9th Jan 2009 05:24

Midex is great !
 
Well, I joined Midex a few months ago and I have no complaints whatsoever! We get paid at the end of the month. We get per diems every day we are here, flying or not. We get free furnished air-conditioned accommodation and free electric/water. We get free transport to and from the airport. We get our UAE medical and UAE licence fees paid. We get our residence/work visas arranged for us. We get medical insurance. We get uniforms.We get paid return tickets home every five weeks and then three weeks off with salary. We are not overworked. Living in Al Ain is great, it is safe , the weather is fabulous. The company has a great future. The aircraft are well maintained. There are promotion/conversion prospects. The management/training staff are professional and very experienced. They are also intolerant of dickheads. So all you morons who have been kicked out of or cannot get into Midex should get yourselves a life instead sending anonymous, insulting messages on this forum. You have no backbone and are totally pathetic.

Lion 01 9th Jan 2009 09:05

It is sad that this thread has come down to personal attacks, innuendo and the singling out of individuals because of their nationality. As for Icarus2008, your comments deserve no response and I will not lower myself to this level.
As for the comment about an American Flight Engineer running the show, last time I checked, Mr. Anthony Graas was the Director of Operations for Midex Airlines.
Best of luck to you Icarus2008 and I hope you find what you are looking for in aviation.

747fanatic 9th Jan 2009 11:07

Sad.
Lets avoid personalizing this forum.
*****
Isnt Anthony just an aircraft broker? How is he the DO
I am surprised GCAA accepts his credentials.
Maybe thats the problem with Midex.
And the reason why Saboor decided to keep his distance.

fr8box 9th Jan 2009 11:23

Quote:
The American F/E running the show is a back-stabber brought from Focus Air, and sold his skin for some more coins of silver that will not last, as he is not a qualified individual for running the show, neither any of the Italian campers who think they got Lybian oil back in history.


Icarus,

I am not an employee of Midex but I can certainly vouch for the integrity of the so called "American F/E". I know him personally and professionally, having worked with him at another carrier. His professionalism and credentials are beyond reproach. Let's not stoop to personal attacks and keep this thread focused on the vaiability of Midex.

Icarus2008 10th Jan 2009 09:21

Feeling the heat?
 
Not this neither.

Can't you get any vaseline in Al Ain?:ok:Mackenzie loves it daily!
Does the Dr.CEO knows about all you vagabounds wearing dusted uniforms and melted wings when attending training meetings in the desert? Does he know about his incredible team of experts that are still wondering when would the first sortie to ORY will happen?:confused:
Murphy's Law!! you all will end packing boxes at "home depot" very soon, and yes they also provide you with a/c and medical insurance too!:ugh:

U.A.E CAA will be screening this team of wannabes, and again will make sure your domain is on the ground! Any of the F/E's qualified A&P? Has the back-stabber provided them with torch and daggers too?

Icarus2008 10th Jan 2009 09:33

Do not get me started wannabe Midex, this guy was groomed by Saboor to be somebody, and the moment his mentor was gone, Judas comes to management and pretends with a Safety Manager title he can fill in the vacant post?:= Don't you get it?:8

He maybe a good & qualified third man, but no up to the job, specially when you circumvent your former generals, and ask for hashish behind the scenes. Midex B747 recruits are doomed! maybe A300B4 will survive, no quams on type, they have been doing it for long, and without bush-pilots!

Paladini 10th Jan 2009 10:13

AtLast:


In your post.... I think you meant impeccable or unimpeachable..... is that correct?

AtLast - American Psychological Assn Writing and style guide allows hypenation for emphasis in a conversational context such as this forum... no offense intended. but you ARE correct


Icarus2008:

was it "hashish" or "bakshish"? there's a BIG difference between a Class "A" drug and Vitamin "W" (wasta).


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