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411A 9th Apr 2008 15:45


Guys think we shud get a B707 op going? Just done my B707/720 type tech .......Bit late by 40 years but........just need circuits now! Anyone want a 707 newbie? but with 727 command experience.
Well, some time ago, I was a B707 TRE/IRE and still have the manuals (the best ones, PanAmerican and original Boeing) and if a cheaper source of fuel could be found (the fan-powered 707 consumes 12,000 pounds/hr), it is certainly possible.
Noise would be a slight problem however, as Burbank Aeronautical has closed their doors so their stage 3 hush-kit is no longer available....so Africa here we come.

And why not, I ask.
The 707 was a fine reliable 'ole airplane, that in many cases demanded well developed flying skills to keep the blue side up....not like the wonderbusses of today where button-pushing has become the fashion.:yuk::yuk:

mark g leach 10th Apr 2008 03:00

Porrohman u better come up with some evidence arsehole....otherwise u will be sorted out....

mark g leach 10th Apr 2008 03:38

u better back off now otherwise they're coming for ya.
Your time is up c...

mark g leach 10th Apr 2008 03:41

AFP are watchin u 2 little boys....and plenty waiting in the wings....

Stratofreighter 10th Apr 2008 10:11

I beg your pardon??
 
And WHAT exactly are these three messages from "Mark" about ???
Rather strong language... :=

The AvgasDinosaur 10th Apr 2008 10:21

mark g leach
This is a civilised thread about two classic propliner aircraft which at the moment face an uncertain future. They are viewed with a great deal of affection by most if not all the people who have contributed positively to this thread.
Please explain or withdraw your rather bizarre postings.
Thank you.
Be lucky
David

Porrohman 10th Apr 2008 12:06


And WHAT exactly are these three messages from "Mark" about ???
Rather strong language... :=
I agree with Stratofreighter and in any case Mark, I think you're addressing your anger at the wrong person. Read the thread again.

Stratofreighter 10th Apr 2008 12:28


And WHAT exactly are these three messages from "Mark" about ???
Rather strong language... := I agree with Stratofreighter and in any case Mark, I think you're addressing your anger at the wrong person. Read the thread again.
Indeed I did not find any recent message from Porrohman that could have provoked such anger. A case of mixing up people? :confused:

Cpt_Pugwash 10th Apr 2008 13:58

Perhaps Mark G Leach (loc: Sydney) is referring to the Heavy Cargo (loc: Sydney) post #248 wrt the allegations about the missing logs.

Jamie-Southend 10th Apr 2008 15:50

He certainly appears to be agitated about something, we can only await his return with bated breath. :\

J

Porrohman 10th Apr 2008 21:28

I did a Google search for Geoff Leach + Heavylift and found this article;
http://www.austlii.org/au/cases/cth/AATA/2007/1005.html
I wonder whether Mark G Leach and Geoff Leach are the same person as the Geoffrey Leach that is mentioned in this article? Or perhaps they are all different people who, by co-incidence, share the same surname? :confused:

mark g leach 10th Apr 2008 22:52

wake up
 
Fellas this language is to make sure Macolm porter and Geoff Leach are not held responsible for what Heavylift Australia have created.
Geoff had contracts signed and sealed to operate the CL44...On arrival BOH he realised he had been shafted BY HIS OWN SON NICHOLAS WILLIAM LEACH AND ROD CRANE.....Their business ethic is deplorable here in Australia and must be stopped....Porrohman get your facts right before quoting lies.....

Porrohman 11th Apr 2008 00:16

Mark, I think your anger should be directed at Heavy Cargo, not me :=.
It was Heavy Cargo that named names in relation to the missing logs.

Heavy Cargo 11th Apr 2008 01:49

Wow full melt down ? :D

mark g leach 11th Apr 2008 01:50

ok apologies.
 
You were assuming Geoff Leach who happenes to be my old man is a thief.
Nick LEACH /Rod Crane are sick men in need of assistance.
They are pure evil and are currently being watched by the Australian Tax office and the AFP...

mark g leach 11th Apr 2008 01:54

N Registration.
 
This CL 44 will continue to sit at BOH.There will be no N Registration.

Geoff Leach would have had it flying if they hadnt renegotitated in their own terms.
Again they broke a binding contract with Geoff which is currently being processed through govt system both here and in the UK.
kEEP WATCHIN"'

Stratofreighter 11th Apr 2008 06:04

Belfast vs CL-44 Guppy
 

This CL 44 will continue to sit at BOH.There will be no N Registration.
If I am correct it was the Shorts Belfast at Southend that will apparently be getting an N-registration...
Pity about Guppy. :{

The AvgasDinosaur 11th Apr 2008 07:17

Quote from Stratofreighter

Shorts Belfast at Southend that will apparently be getting an N-registration...
Sorry but I seriously doubt that the Americans will give her a C of A. The type has never been registered there and I don't think even preliminary work towards certification has been undertaken in the past. I can't see Bombardier ( Owners of Shorts) investing much support in the project.
I think her future lies on a register of convenience, albeit one with high enough standards of oversight and inspection to satisfy the Australian authorities.
Does anyone KNOW who holds the design authority for the Belfast these days?
Be lucky
David

The AvgasDinosaur 11th Apr 2008 07:29

Quote from Porrohman

I did a Google search for Geoff Leach + Heavylift and found this article;
http://www.austlii.org/au/cases/cth/AATA/2007/1005.html
I believe one of the major outcomes of that report was the move from Sierra Leone (9L) to Philippines (RP) registration, see my comments in the post above

.....................a register of convenience, albeit one with high enough standards of oversight and inspection to satisfy the Australian authorities.
That report concerned incidents and deficiencies found in 2002/03. I am sure they must have cleaned up their operation since then or The Australian Government Authorities would have stopped all flying into or through their airspace IMHO.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David

BSD 11th Apr 2008 08:10

Avgas old pal,

You may be right about the Guppy not being given a US registration in the future, but she certainly had one in the past.

When I flew the old girl she had N447T on the side.

Sad to see the way this is going, but the 44 was dangerous at the best of times. The expertise to maintain it, and people with the skill to operate it safely, let alone reliably have largely gone, and that would make flying this thing again one heck of a challenge.

The 44 was the most demanding aeroplane I ever flew, and made any other contemporary airliner a mere walk in the park. By comparison, today's fabulous modern airliners are for kids!

Tread carefully with this one, and good luck to all.

BSD.


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