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Old 16th Dec 2018, 10:10
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Originally Posted by Quemerford View Post
He he "...should of.." - spoken like a true Bristolian. Where you to?

No, it's where be you to?
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Old 18th Dec 2018, 13:50
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Originally Posted by Amos Keeto View Post
I thought this had been impounded and reposessed by the airport authorties due to non-payment of parking charges?? How many more years is this going on with nothing happening?
It occurred to me that in 2018 with the price of aluminium what it is both these aircraft effectively have nil or negative scrap value. I.e If the airport wanted to get rid of them desperately they would have to find a contractor somewhere and pay them a lot of money to come cut them up and take them away. Being the vintage they are they no doubt have a bit of asbestos and other nasties in them too which would make for an expensive OH&S nightmare for whoever has to dispose of them! . The airports would achieve nothing by impounding and repossessing each aircraft!....
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Old 18th Dec 2018, 14:06
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Cool

Originally Posted by 4 Holer View Post
Hey go easy its the hobby of the weekend warriors..........Lighting up the grass and the massive fire they started thus closing the airport last summer would not have helped their cause.
It cant be much more complicated than a constellation or any other piston 4 engine aircraft ??.....why rag on their dreams? Africa is a big place and they dont give a shit about type certificates ICAO standards and manufacturer support!!!! i'll take a punt and give em $50 on the crowd funding site. Didn't one of the owners use to have a WACO in his shed ? I wish he had finished that off ...oh well

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Old 18th Dec 2018, 20:05
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Way things are looking you'd need to be whacko to own one....
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Old 19th Dec 2018, 16:05
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An ex-TMAC friend tells me that Malcolm Porter is sadly no longer with us.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 04:50
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Originally Posted by StallsandSpins View Post
It cant be much more complicated than a constellation or any other piston 4 engine aircraft ??.....why rag on their dreams? Africa is a big place and they dont give a shit about type certificates ICAO standards and manufacturer support!!!! i'll take a punt and give em $50 on the crowd funding site. Didn't one of the owners use to have a WACO in his shed ? I wish he had finished that off ...oh well
That crowd funding site is a scam
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Old 21st Dec 2018, 09:38
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Yes, Malcolm passed away on Monday 17th after a long illness.
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 20:55
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Learned contributors,
Malcolm's funeral will take place on 8th January 2019, the service will be held at 2:30 pm at:Worcester Crematorium, Astwood Cemetery, Tintern Avenue, Worcester, WR3 8HAThere will be a gathering following the service at The Nags Head, 19-21 Bank Street, Malvern, WR14 2JG.Please could you indicate if you are hoping to attend by dropping either Tanya Trotman ([email protected]) or myself ([email protected]) an email so that we can get an indication of numbers for catering.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 21:53
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I'm currently doing some training with someone from Bournemouth and asked about the guppy. It seems the generally held opinion among at least some of the operational staff there is that the corrosion has put the aircraft beyond airworthy. Apparently this is relatively well known so they aren't sure what the people who show up at the aircraft are actually doing with it.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 07:03
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Originally Posted by Cpt Khramov View Post
I'm currently doing some training with someone from Bournemouth and asked about the guppy. It seems the generally held opinion among at least some of the operational staff there is that the corrosion has put the aircraft beyond airworthy. Apparently this is relatively well known so they aren't sure what the people who show up at the aircraft are actually doing with it.
Corrosion can be dealt with.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 10:22
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Well it's been at Hurn (BOH) for over 15 years stored in the open, and this is not the best place to keep an aircraft. It's not a dry desert climate but a temperate damp one and only 4 miles from the sea.
Yes corrosion can be dealt with but it could take a huge amount of money, and if the main structural elements, (wing spars, etc,) are affected then I doubt anyone could fix it.
If it should ever fly, I hope it doesn't make an early right turn off 26, as that would be over my house.
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 09:18
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Originally Posted by Hockham Admiral View Post
An ex-HeavyLift pilot flew down to Bournemouth on Friday (30/11) and happened to be parked near the Guppy. It was being worked on by Mike McKeever and the owner (who also owns G-HLFT in Cairns). They still have plans to get both flying again.
Is that the same owner that keeps leaving aircraft parked all over the world and does not pay parking fees.
Its about time these aircraft where made into coke cans hey Nick.
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 20:37
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Surely the dix's response would equally apply to the Belslow, too?
Mightn't be 15 years tho' can't be far off plus close to the coast.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 19:27
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Originally Posted by 4 Holer View Post
Won't happen RR Tyne does not have a Type certificate and neither Airframe Manufacturer support the airframes anymore. Buy AN12...... cheaper
Except an AN-12 won't haul the size load that the Belfast will. That's really the only reason for even considering trying to operate the Belfast, is to serve that niche of cargo which won't fit in an AN-12 or Herc.
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Old 4th Mar 2019, 20:17
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Good to see a sense of humour here, AS.
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Old 10th Mar 2019, 09:07
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Originally Posted by SRM View Post
Is that the same owner that keeps leaving aircraft parked all over the world and does not pay parking fees?
I flew into Johor Bahru about 5yrs ago and there was an Indonesian reg'd Transall on the freight apron where we parked. Subsequent enquiries suggested it belonged to the same bloke who owned the Belfast and Guppy. He must love Tynes!
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 06:41
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CRAZY Stuff.....
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Old 16th Mar 2019, 02:47
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