Freight on passenger Planes..?
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Freight on passenger Planes..?
Hi All, I have been looking at the Lanzarote Airport Webcam, and wondered how they get their provisions, on an island in Mid-Atlantic. I have not seen any freight aircraft land there during the day.
So is there an arrangement to fly cargo, if there is space available on the next passenger plane.?
I used to work on the little red tractors and trailers at railway stations, and realise that all passenger trains would carry some goods, as well as Mail and Papers.
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So is there an arrangement to fly cargo, if there is space available on the next passenger plane.?
I used to work on the little red tractors and trailers at railway stations, and realise that all passenger trains would carry some goods, as well as Mail and Papers.
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Most airliners carry a significant amount of cargo in the lower hold but on smaller aircraft the space is quite limited and we're talking about 100-200 kgs on something like a twin-otter if there is a decent pax load so its usually time sensitive stuff or urgent things like medicine. If there are not many passengers some airlines carry cargo in the passenger cabin but this is generally not officially permitted.
For most islands most of them get their supplies via ship, weekly or monthly but I suspect daily in the case of Lazarote as its quite near the mainland and the tourist industry is thriving.
Anilv
For most islands most of them get their supplies via ship, weekly or monthly but I suspect daily in the case of Lazarote as its quite near the mainland and the tourist industry is thriving.
Anilv
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Thanks for all the replies. Does anyone know how this works in practice..? Hypothetically....
If I was a manufacturer of say Cornflakes, and I wished to ship about 10,000 boxes out to Lanzarote each week. Would I need to arrange with each airline to carry a few. Or would that be left to the airport dispatchers, to put as many as they could onto each available plane..?
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If I was a manufacturer of say Cornflakes, and I wished to ship about 10,000 boxes out to Lanzarote each week. Would I need to arrange with each airline to carry a few. Or would that be left to the airport dispatchers, to put as many as they could onto each available plane..?
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scifi,
as 747-8 Driver wrote, this will all go by ocean to Arrecife. Car/truck Ferry from Cadiz, weekly sailing with abot 2 days transittime. But also containerized Cargo by other Steamshiplines. Your friendly forwarder (or LSP as they are called nowadays) will gladly help. If You wish, PM me for more Details.
as 747-8 Driver wrote, this will all go by ocean to Arrecife. Car/truck Ferry from Cadiz, weekly sailing with abot 2 days transittime. But also containerized Cargo by other Steamshiplines. Your friendly forwarder (or LSP as they are called nowadays) will gladly help. If You wish, PM me for more Details.
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Thanks for all the replies. Does anyone know how this works in practice..? Hypothetically....
If I was a manufacturer of say Cornflakes, and I wished to ship about 10,000 boxes out to Lanzarote each week. Would I need to arrange with each airline to carry a few. Or would that be left to the airport dispatchers, to put as many as they could onto each available plane..?
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If I was a manufacturer of say Cornflakes, and I wished to ship about 10,000 boxes out to Lanzarote each week. Would I need to arrange with each airline to carry a few. Or would that be left to the airport dispatchers, to put as many as they could onto each available plane..?
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'Capacity' is also affected by the weight vs physical size of the cargo, usually expressed as Actual (weight) vs Dims (dimensions). Your boxes of cornflakes weigh relatively little compared to their volumetric size vs, say, books which are heavy for their size. Thus all your cornflakes would fill out any spare belly capacity without the aircraft reaching max weight. And putting in as many books as the max weight of the aircraft would allow would mean there is still unused ('wasted') space in the holds. So it's a balance / trade-off between the two.
Other factors to consider with airfreight, which costs considerably more than sea, would be the urgency of getting the product to market (e.g. for a new product launch), perishability -. a lot of fruit and veg comes from distant places in the belly of PAX aircraft, and much, much more.
Hope that helps,
CS





