Howz Cougar Doing??
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From: EGSS
Can it be True?!
Just happened to have a quick look in the latest Airliner World and it has a story on Cougar sourcing an MD11F as early as 2003 & a 757-200 for the pax side!!! Now a mad-dog in the cat colours would be a fine site indeed.
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From: Best seat in the house
MD11F or B752
I'm crossing everything as I type in anticipation that these will be one of the new types operated by Cougar. I suspect though that those cramped 734 will rear their ugly heads again....
Who knows, one can dream!!
Who knows, one can dream!!
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From: EGSS
Dont think KD has any operating experience of the 757F as such. He was line manager for FFV when Anglo flew the 757??? Nevertheless, i,m sure he,d make it work given the opportunity, but still like to see the "Cat MD11"!!!
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From: Just South of North...
So Mr N, as the title of the thread says, how IS Cougar doing? As an observer, I hear that many staff are VERY unhappy at recent developments. Think maybe a closer look is needed. People are'nt always what they appear to be on the surface.....
Make it survive Mr N, the potential for your company is huge if allowed to be....... otherwise
Make it survive Mr N, the potential for your company is huge if allowed to be....... otherwise
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Rumours
I heard that Joe Fossil is the main man at Cougar airways.
Rumours around TNT are that there are many redundancies forthcoming. The main selection criteria being if you are ex gill then your job is safe otherwise a free ticket to the employement agency awaits.
For the lucky ones you get:
1. basing in liege and a pay-cut
2. the opportunity to work for a comapny where morale is non existent
3. lies, deceit and tretchery are standard operating procedures
4. the need to look over your shoulder at every given moment
5. a nice sense of insecurity.
it must be a wonderful work environment.
Can any one confirm or deny this?
Rumours around TNT are that there are many redundancies forthcoming. The main selection criteria being if you are ex gill then your job is safe otherwise a free ticket to the employement agency awaits.
For the lucky ones you get:
1. basing in liege and a pay-cut
2. the opportunity to work for a comapny where morale is non existent
3. lies, deceit and tretchery are standard operating procedures
4. the need to look over your shoulder at every given moment
5. a nice sense of insecurity.
it must be a wonderful work environment.
Can any one confirm or deny this?
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From: Just South of North...
"Joe Fossil" - Mmmm from what I've heard this guy needs to go back where he came from - under the ground. Old tricks never die, this ain't the first time either. The downfall in the company started when he arrived - allegedly - and won't recover until he's gone. Some people can do a lot of damage by meandering, ducking and diving and lying to the boss. How long can this be allowed to go on. Any Cougarites care to comment?
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From: Somewhere between here and there....
Well, at least the ops staff will get to hear first hand what the hell is going on in the company - seems a meeting for them has been called tomorrow (13th though) - Mmmm unlucky for some that number......can things get any worse ? 
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Do you think the management can be trusted to tell the truth?
I get the impression from rumours in LGG that crews are contemplating a walkout there is such ill feeling towards the company. I believe the indians to have no faith in their chiefs any more.
I get the impression from rumours in LGG that crews are contemplating a walkout there is such ill feeling towards the company. I believe the indians to have no faith in their chiefs any more.
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From: Somewhere between here and there....
The Indians have no faith in their Chiefs anymore? "Anymore?" Mmmm think that faith went a long time ago. When will the boss actually realise his company is falling apart around him?
It's such a shame because a company like Cougar could make a good name for itself in certain markets. Why not shift the Super 27 down to Africa or the Middle East and start hauling cargo away from noise sensitive areas, get some more cash behind it then move forward rather than backwards as presently perceived. Why not get some serious marketing and sales tactics up and running. Someone should be out in the field selling the product. Why purely rely on a TNT contract, that won't survive for ever.
Better still, why not start listening to the people who care about the company and not just themselves and their pockets.......
It's such a shame because a company like Cougar could make a good name for itself in certain markets. Why not shift the Super 27 down to Africa or the Middle East and start hauling cargo away from noise sensitive areas, get some more cash behind it then move forward rather than backwards as presently perceived.
Why not get some serious marketing and sales tactics up and running. Someone should be out in the field selling the product. Why purely rely on a TNT contract, that won't survive for ever.Better still, why not start listening to the people who care about the company and not just themselves and their pockets.......
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May be it is set to go the same way as Gill went. If it did wonder if it would be possible to find a common link to these events?
May be Cat-Club would like to comment on these fast moving events or is that the nine lives have been used up
May be Cat-Club would like to comment on these fast moving events or is that the nine lives have been used up
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From: Somewhere between here and there....
Nothing new heard except what was already known except that Ops will be down sized in some form or another. Certain questions were asked but not answered directly. It could be that answers are actually NOT there just yet. Another announcement to follow by the end of August..... It doesn't look good though but we will wait and see with breath held (but not held for too long.....)
No more passenger flying after October 31 unless something major happens. The future IS cargo, but then we already knew that as mentioned earlier. B737-300's early next year, which is a good move. The 727 is getting on and can't compete realistically in a cut throat market, so 737's can only be good news (if it happens). No mention of the MD11 though.
I hope this works that's all I can say........
No more passenger flying after October 31 unless something major happens. The future IS cargo, but then we already knew that as mentioned earlier. B737-300's early next year, which is a good move. The 727 is getting on and can't compete realistically in a cut throat market, so 737's can only be good news (if it happens). No mention of the MD11 though.
I hope this works that's all I can say........
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