Ground "hi-jack" at Marseille/Marignane
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Ground "hi-jack" at Marseille/Marignane
This is not a thread I normally venture into but thought you freight guys might want to see this.
Marseille | Un avion braqué en pleine nuit à l'aéroport | La Provence
For non French speakers, bandits rammed the fence early yesterday morning and held up the crew and baggage handlers of a recently arrived cargo aircraft. When they discovered nothing of value on board, they robbed the crew, made their getaway, and burned out the (presumably stolen) car.
Police are blaming the security lapse on the outsourcing of security to private companies. Airport management are refusing to comment, citing the secrecy of the investigation.
Marseille | Un avion braqué en pleine nuit à l'aéroport | La Provence
For non French speakers, bandits rammed the fence early yesterday morning and held up the crew and baggage handlers of a recently arrived cargo aircraft. When they discovered nothing of value on board, they robbed the crew, made their getaway, and burned out the (presumably stolen) car.
Police are blaming the security lapse on the outsourcing of security to private companies. Airport management are refusing to comment, citing the secrecy of the investigation.
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Personally I'm more concerned about undeclared Haz Mat and Lithium Batteries (declared and otherwise), to be perfectly honest.
But I appreciate your contribution nevertheless.
By the way, a "ground hijack" in English is technically referred to as a "commandeering".
Example:
"The aircraft was commandeered at the gate but the authorities were able to take control of the situation."
Pedantic, I admit, but this is Pprune after all!
But I appreciate your contribution nevertheless.
By the way, a "ground hijack" in English is technically referred to as a "commandeering".
Example:
"The aircraft was commandeered at the gate but the authorities were able to take control of the situation."
Pedantic, I admit, but this is Pprune after all!
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From: Chicago, IL, USA
News Flash! We speak English in America. Unfortunately the native languages have been mostly forgotten.
At any rate, yes, you're correct that is ONE sense of the verb to commandeer, but lo and behold my English friend, there is yet another...
commandeer - definition of commandeer by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
1. To force into military service.
2. To seize for military use; confiscate.
3. To take arbitrarily or by force.
Commandeer is the correct term to describe the action of taking an aircraft by force whether for military service or otherwise.
LANGUAGE IS DYNAMIC AND FLEXIBLE.
At any rate, yes, you're correct that is ONE sense of the verb to commandeer, but lo and behold my English friend, there is yet another...
commandeer - definition of commandeer by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
1. To force into military service.
2. To seize for military use; confiscate.
3. To take arbitrarily or by force.
Commandeer is the correct term to describe the action of taking an aircraft by force whether for military service or otherwise.
LANGUAGE IS DYNAMIC AND FLEXIBLE.
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From: somewhere near an airport
So the word "hijack" describes what happened correctly then..
As you quoted from this source..
hi·jack also high·jack (h
j
k
) Informal
tr.v. hi·jacked also high·jacked, hi·jack·ing also high·jack·ing, hi·jacks also high·jacks 1. a. To stop and rob (a vehicle in transit).
b. To steal (goods) from a vehicle in transit.
c. To seize control of (a moving vehicle) by use of force, especially in order to reach an alternate destination.
2. a. To steal from as if by hijacking.
b. To swindle or subject to extortion
hijack - definition of hijack by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Although how you hijack a broswer or a computer beats me ????
As you quoted from this source..
hi·jack also high·jack (h
jk) Informal tr.v. hi·jacked also high·jacked, hi·jack·ing also high·jack·ing, hi·jacks also high·jacks 1. a. To stop and rob (a vehicle in transit).
b. To steal (goods) from a vehicle in transit.
c. To seize control of (a moving vehicle) by use of force, especially in order to reach an alternate destination.
2. a. To steal from as if by hijacking.
b. To swindle or subject to extortion
hijack - definition of hijack by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Although how you hijack a broswer or a computer beats me ????
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From: Island of Aphrodite
The only people I've ever heard speak English in the USA are English!
UK English has moved on - sometimes in bad way - innit.
We can and should thank the cousins for keeping English as it should be spoken (sometimes!!!!)
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Originally Posted by PURPLE PITOT
English (Queens) is not!
Englisc sy ne sum ábýgendlic ágenspræc, is how it would be if English was not a flexible and dynamic language.
P.S. Isn't modern English mostly a bastardised version of French?
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From: England
From the OED (Oxford English Dictionary)
Definition of commandeer
verb
[with object]
officially take possession or control of (something), especially for military purposes: a nearby house had been commandeered by the army
take possession of (something) by force: the truck was commandeered by a mob
[with object and infinitive] enlist (someone) to help in a task: he commandeered the men to find a table
Origin:
early 19th century: from Afrikaans kommandeer, from Dutch commanderen, from French commander 'to command' (see command)
Note the very important first word " officially"
Also from the OED
Definition of hijack
verb
[with object]
illegally seize (an aircraft, ship, or vehicle) while in transit and force it to go to a different destination or use it for one’s own purposes: a man armed with grenades hijacked the jet yesterday
steal (goods) by seizing them in transit: the UN convoys have been tamely allowing gunmen to hijack relief supplies
take over (something) and use it for a different purpose: he argues that pressure groups have hijacked the environmental debate
noun
an incident or act of hijacking: [as modifier]: an unsuccessful hijack attempt
Derivatives
hijacker
noun
Origin:
1920s (originally US): of unknown origin
Also note the very important first word "illegally".
QED
Definition of commandeer
verb
[with object]
officially take possession or control of (something), especially for military purposes: a nearby house had been commandeered by the army
take possession of (something) by force: the truck was commandeered by a mob
[with object and infinitive] enlist (someone) to help in a task: he commandeered the men to find a table
Origin:
early 19th century: from Afrikaans kommandeer, from Dutch commanderen, from French commander 'to command' (see command)
Note the very important first word " officially"
Also from the OED
Definition of hijack
verb
[with object]
illegally seize (an aircraft, ship, or vehicle) while in transit and force it to go to a different destination or use it for one’s own purposes: a man armed with grenades hijacked the jet yesterday
steal (goods) by seizing them in transit: the UN convoys have been tamely allowing gunmen to hijack relief supplies
take over (something) and use it for a different purpose: he argues that pressure groups have hijacked the environmental debate
noun
an incident or act of hijacking: [as modifier]: an unsuccessful hijack attempt
Derivatives
hijacker
noun
Origin:
1920s (originally US): of unknown origin
Also note the very important first word "illegally".
QED
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From: Won't tell
Honestly... Who give's a s.hit about the grammatical or linguistic correctness of the wording of the initial post, the point was made and I undrestood it, a non-native english speaker and clearly. You yanks and pommies want to re-enact war of independence of words, you can play Washington and Corwallis in JB. Just my two pence worth hey.
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From: Button Moon
Well said wizzkid......
As a someone that fly's into MRS with another Freight Operator this is frightening stuff.
Pack in the dick measuring over the grammar and let's have a serious discussion. Some of my colleagues / friends will have been down there at or around the time this happened.
Having both day stopped and passed through MRS many times with work, I seem to remember the perimeter fence not being overy substantial around the Cargo section down by 13L. Although I'm usually very much ready for bed by the time I see it so correct me if I'm wrong on that one. Quite a bold plan by the thugs that carried out the robbery but it should never have got that far.
2W2R
As a someone that fly's into MRS with another Freight Operator this is frightening stuff.
Pack in the dick measuring over the grammar and let's have a serious discussion. Some of my colleagues / friends will have been down there at or around the time this happened.
Having both day stopped and passed through MRS many times with work, I seem to remember the perimeter fence not being overy substantial around the Cargo section down by 13L. Although I'm usually very much ready for bed by the time I see it so correct me if I'm wrong on that one. Quite a bold plan by the thugs that carried out the robbery but it should never have got that far.
2W2R
