GSS to fly for Atlas in MIA, South America
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GSS to fly for Atlas in MIA, South America
From the wire, edited for brevity-
"Atlas Air, Inc. wants to take advantage of a growth opportunity in South America. In order to do so, Atlas must commit a second 747-400 to the South American market. Currently, Atlas does not have another -400 in its fleet to dedicate to South America. As a result, Atlas has established an “alliance agreement” with GSS to secure -400 and GSS crews."
"Atlas Air, Inc. wants to take advantage of a growth opportunity in South America. In order to do so, Atlas must commit a second 747-400 to the South American market. Currently, Atlas does not have another -400 in its fleet to dedicate to South America. As a result, Atlas has established an “alliance agreement” with GSS to secure -400 and GSS crews."
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Meanwhile Atlas furloughs 30 professional flight engineers January 1st and parked 2 of its' remaining 5 747 Classics in the desert at the end of December. Even if the Classic cannot handle the MIA to S. America loads/distances, they could have been allocated to AMC work and one of those planes brought to MIA.
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Ahem! Don't you know the company ALWAYS wins? You get a nice new shiney contract and someone will get whacked. It has been that way since the first chocks were pulled and it will be that way when the last chocks are pulled. An Atlas FO friend of mine mentioned to me HR told him they had stopped hiring. What's up with that?
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"An Atlas FO friend of mine mentioned to me HR told him they had stopped hiring. What's up with that?"
Atlas needed the space in ground school / simulators to transition the Classic pilots to the 747-400.
I don't know the status of 767 staffing and whether more FO's are needed to be hired off the street. No launch date for the 5 767 DHL CMI contract announced other than 1st Qtr 2012. And that announcement was awhile ago now.
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Atlas needed the space in ground school / simulators to transition the Classic pilots to the 747-400.
I don't know the status of 767 staffing and whether more FO's are needed to be hired off the street. No launch date for the 5 767 DHL CMI contract announced other than 1st Qtr 2012. And that announcement was awhile ago now.
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Dan, totally agree but didn't that arrangement between BAWC/Atlas come about because at that time there was no comparable aircraft on the UK register? Until the arrival of AFX of course with the classic but close enough. I guess BAWC could have contracted a European operator even though a UK one wasn't available. Would have been nice to see the tide turn to the Europeans favour!
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Originally Posted by Dan Winterland
If it were to happen, it would be payback for all the years Atlas crews were doing the BA World Cargo ACMI contract - taking jobs from British pilots.
Why should the crews suffer any "payback".
The CREWS didn't go around soliciting work from BA. That's a CORPORATE function.
The CREWS fly as they're assigned to fly (be they Atlas or GSS). Since when is going to work a personal decision to screw someone?
Besides, plenty of Brits operated those N registered aircraft.
It's divisive rhetoric like yours that makes this industry miserable.
Boo.
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Zero . great response, I in my 40+years of flying have seen more British pilots fly any registration around the world . Try flying a British registered Aircraft as a non Brit.! Good Luck!
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What???? Lots of non-Brits flying on G reg aircraft.
I personally know of:
French, Germans, Italians, Swedes, Danes in B.A.;
Americans, Canadians, Australians, Dutch and South Africans in Virgin Atlantic;
French, Germans, Dutch, Swiss, Belgians, Spanish, Portuguese, Irish, Danes, Italians and Austrians in easyJet;
Americans and South Africans in DHL Air UK.
Need I go on? Because I can.
I personally know of:
French, Germans, Italians, Swedes, Danes in B.A.;
Americans, Canadians, Australians, Dutch and South Africans in Virgin Atlantic;
French, Germans, Dutch, Swiss, Belgians, Spanish, Portuguese, Irish, Danes, Italians and Austrians in easyJet;
Americans and South Africans in DHL Air UK.
Need I go on? Because I can.
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I am a non-brit and I am flying a G reg aircraft for the last 18 years. And yes, that is proper airline work so not a bug smasher.
You will find that the markets on the continent are more protected because in general they require the candidate to speak the local lingo.
Personally I can't even go back to my own country (on the continent) because the national airline also requires a candidate to have completed his/her flight training at a few selected schools. But that is a completely different discussion.
You will find that the markets on the continent are more protected because in general they require the candidate to speak the local lingo.
Personally I can't even go back to my own country (on the continent) because the national airline also requires a candidate to have completed his/her flight training at a few selected schools. But that is a completely different discussion.
Well, I've said it before but I will say it again, I flew very happily as a DC-10 captain for a Part 121 operator based in JFK for three and a half years. We had so many nationalities flying for us that I wouldn't even know where to start.
It really does work both ways chaps.
One thing that I would agree with is that the US unions are much better than BALPA (which is as much use as t*ts on a bull.)
It really does work both ways chaps.
One thing that I would agree with is that the US unions are much better than BALPA (which is as much use as t*ts on a bull.)
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GSS spawned AACS
In fact many of the key players instrumental in establishing GSS left AACS in order to be employed by GSS. Some are still there.
As for payback...where do I even start with that cave-man concept. A lot of really great people were badly damaged by the way Atlas management shafted the AACS crew.
