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to move 13000 lbs 450 miles, what would you fly?

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Old 30th Aug 2011, 13:04
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Daily trips in a Caravan. 208B
Good for at least 2000lbs a trip with
2000lbs of fuel. Hell.. strap a barrel in it for just in case.
operate it on a daily sched type.. cheap to buy.. too easy.
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Old 31st Aug 2011, 02:25
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Shorts 360, square fuselage for max. bulk + rear loading door
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Old 5th Sep 2011, 05:08
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PC-6. 1,000kg a time = 3 trips a week for 3,000kg.
STOL. Large cargo door so load the full pallet at base strip, and break it down at destination.
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Old 6th Sep 2011, 07:56
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What you need is a Convair 580 or if you can afford it a Convair 5800.
Give Kelowna a call and they can give you the specifics.
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Old 6th Sep 2011, 08:07
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How about something like this? If you could put the time and effort in reregistering,etc....


Disposal Services Authority
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Old 6th Sep 2011, 09:12
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We have an Andover here that would do nicely cargo ramp and all currently on the military register but sat doing nothing
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Old 7th Sep 2011, 22:37
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You can forget about flying any turboprop (incl AN32) with full payload fuelled for 1000 nm 2 leg mission. It either shall be the next class (ie AN12 or Herc) or a jet.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 08:54
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Antonov

I second all those guys saying you should go for AN-24/26/32.
Reasons against "western" aircraft proposals:
1. Even very used ATRs are somewhat expensive.
2. Noone in their right mind will lease you ant ATR for such an operation at a reasonable cost
3. Aircraft like F27 are cheap - but where will you get service and rated pilots?
4. C208, Twotter are for short haul and mostly passenger ops. Using them for such a mission is only feasible if the destination runway is <2500 ft. long.

Reasons for AN-24/26/32:
1. They were built for 3rd world conditions
2. They are readily available ACMI with not too many questions asked
3. They burn about the same amount of fuel/kg payload as other suggestions (ATR excluded)
4. Am not sure if it's manual approved but 1.5 km should be more than enough to land and afterwards take off without payload
5. Noone gives a **** that you use them especially for cargo ops - and you will have to pay "extra" eventually anyway

You can always select an operator that assures you of some standards - it's not like those birds are unsafe just because they are USSR/CIS made. If the operator services them according to their manuals everything should be fine.
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Old 9th Sep 2011, 07:44
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AN74

I am currently using an An74 in Afghanistan, 7.5 ton payload, great range. High over-wing jet, intakes well away from rough strip. Ramp loaded and provision for 10 passengers. Let me know if you need one.
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Old 9th Sep 2011, 11:06
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Caravan is fine with super short runways and is made for cargo.
Fedex has like 200 of them
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 09:07
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If can be done in 2 trips then the Lockheed Electra would be perfect, however would need an ASU at destination(Not too many with an APU now).
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