Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Freight Dogs
Reload this Page >

Royal Jordanian Cargo

Wikiposts
Search
Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.

Royal Jordanian Cargo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10th Sep 2010, 07:12
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wallonië
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Royal Jordanian Cargo

Hi all,

According to some brokers and cliënts RJ Cargo will move to a new european hub (moving from Brussels to ? ) end this year anyone who has some related info about this? Like to know and we are interested in this for some mid-east cargo flights out of the benelux! TBC TIA
Flowerdream is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 10:32
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Limboland
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A return to MST maybe?
Smoketrails is offline  
Old 10th Sep 2010, 13:41
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: the Netherlands
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maastricht very likely, but heard these rumours already several before and they haven't moved back (yet).
Limburg is offline  
Old 14th Sep 2010, 14:11
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Limboland
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good news for MST
Smoketrails is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 07:22
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wallonië
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And the winner is MST. Starting the 12th of June. 4-5 times a week.
Flowerdream is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 10:42
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Limboland
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

Welcome back RJA!!!
Smoketrails is offline  
Old 22nd Apr 2011, 11:08
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Belgium
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
MST is perfect for flower charters ... but for being a hub... ?
It's only 1h30 between BRU and MST, it would be nice to know what the real reason of their move.
Acid-drop is offline  
Old 23rd Apr 2011, 07:42
  #8 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wallonië
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The only main reason, they missed the super quality and service of MHS and the quick turn arround times ...

Note this, MST is more then only a flower airport, the flowers are just a smaller part these days.
Flowerdream is offline  
Old 23rd Apr 2011, 08:35
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Limboland
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As the cargomovements keep increasing at MST, I wonder if MHS can sustain their quality standards and maintain the swift handling that has made MST an attractive airport to operate from!?
Smoketrails is offline  
Old 23rd Apr 2011, 11:22
  #10 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wallonië
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
About the MHS quality there should be news out next week regarding this, the future about this looks very good!

I wouldn`t say this if we cant make it true but I think MHS is the number one in the benelux, and makes MST an attractive airport for airlines to operate from... TBC!

Last edited by Flowerdream; 23rd Apr 2011 at 11:33.
Flowerdream is offline  
Old 24th Apr 2011, 10:25
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
MHS is indeed the number one handler in the Benelux in many eyes! But now they need extra warehouse space, manpower and handling equipment to handle all the cargo flights. And last but not least MAA needs more parkingstands for these extra cargo flights!
avia messenger is offline  
Old 25th Apr 2011, 13:14
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Belgium
Age: 57
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mst will always suffer from there one big problem! RUNWAY LENGTH!

Worked with them for more than twenty years and MHS is a good handling
agent and Mst is a nice airport........... but a bit tricky for a B747 on mtow!
Bob the Dog is offline  
Old 25th Apr 2011, 20:55
  #13 (permalink)  
CR2

Top Dog
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Close to FACT
Age: 55
Posts: 2,098
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bob is right ref rwy length. Never mind MTOW on a 747, think about MLW. Needs to be "positively" landed.
CR2 is offline  
Old 25th Apr 2011, 21:31
  #14 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wallonië
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well yesterday, A boeing 747 with max MTOW did take-off direct to Kuala Lumper (Malyasia), without problems... But I agree we need some more metres...
Flowerdream is offline  
Old 25th Apr 2011, 21:40
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sky
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I am asking myself that RJC will stationate their pilots at MST too.. Someone? It is now a base. so..
captain.weird is offline  
Old 26th Apr 2011, 07:26
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Belgium
Age: 57
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Flowerdream, get out of your dream, it is not possible to operate a B747 on mtow of the runway at Mst................ This is the biggest problem Mst has and has been for many years. even the B707 and the DC8 we could not operate out of Mst on mtow.
Bob the Dog is offline  
Old 26th Apr 2011, 08:11
  #17 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wallonië
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
note the runway with 2750 m should be enough, we do have almost daily flights with B747 who almost use their max mtow (but most of them operate MST-Moscow...)
Flowerdream is offline  
Old 26th Apr 2011, 08:37
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Asia
Posts: 2,372
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Are we thinking of aircraft loaded to max Zero Fuel Weight and then only carrying enough juice for a short trip, or prehaps aircraft taking off on a short trip and being landing weight limited at destination ?

Could a B747 at max take off weight going on a long haul trip with no landing weight considerations be accommodated ?
Metro man is offline  
Old 26th Apr 2011, 09:11
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Belgium
Age: 57
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"Could a B747 at max take off weight going on a long haul trip with no landing weight considerations be accommodated ? "

No........ not ex Mst
Bob the Dog is offline  
Old 26th Apr 2011, 09:55
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Belgium
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
at MST they can load MZFW without any problem but the flight will be reduced till max 6 hours flighttime due to runway restrictions!
avia messenger is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.