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Problems shipping live Pigs in lower deck

Old 23rd August 2009 | 02:30
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The letter to the freight manager from the owner's vet asked for an explanation on how the autopsy turned up a sunburnt pig, with frozen intestines.
Just a visitor to this forum, the topic caught my eye. Truly a gem, this one.
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Old 23rd August 2009 | 15:06
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Old 28th August 2009 | 16:30
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Pigs in the lowerdeck is a definite no-no as the temperature range for pigs is limited and the required ventilation flow is considerable. Given that there is a lot of air re-circulated means that the humans upstairs end up sharing the recirculated air with the pigs, who then write rude letters in to the airline to complain about the smell.
Who gave the pigs the address?
Student PPL who loved reading this thread and read the above post a little differently.....
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Old 31st August 2009 | 16:15
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Hi all, can't tell if it's a good idea to fly pigs in lower deck but depending on origin and destination of the consignment u may check with any cargo agent who will offer you a rate for 3 main deck positions with any cargo airline.

Flying pigs on cargo aircraft is no problem, CV recently had a few intercontinental charters full of pigs and the operation was carried out hands down. IATA AVI regulations determin how many pigs can be loaded in a container depending on the shoulder height of the animal. If that rule is followed there will be no problem at all. On modern aircraft such as the 744F the cargo hold carrying the animals can be kept at around 18°C in order to prevent the animals from catching a cold. Just keep in mind that pigs are easily subject to heart attacks and must therefore be handled & transported smoothly and carefully.

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Old 31st August 2009 | 20:14
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Yeah, keep the sows calm by showing them movies of the studs in the country they going to, and enough leg and shoulder room so that they are not so crowded and squashed up like the SLF.

At their destination they going to will work out the most expensive cost p/kg rate in the world and probably most expensive bacon or ham you've ever eaten.
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Old 2nd September 2009 | 18:42
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an extra problem is that a lot of smaller airfields in the EU , are not certified by the European Union for handling pigs at their airfields.

so even if the carrier wants to take it, it still can give a problem.

also pigs produce a huge amount of methane gas, which is flammable when getting too concentrated.

I agree with most of the guys that most probably only cargo a/c might be a correct solution ( even costing more money)
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Old 2nd September 2009 | 22:55
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Once again thanks for all replies

We had pretty much decided to kick this into touch based on the opinions and advise provided by fellow pruners but our ramp transportation company or drayage providers to our US colleagues gave us chapter and verse on why they could not transport the pigs from our warehouse to shipside

So the pigs are finally off the menu for us at least in our lower deck of our pax 777s

Keep moving the boxes
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