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The ATPs will be arriving in Halim where they will put on the Indonesian register , they will be working a general cargo run Sentani (Jayapura) to Wamena.
Some expat crews and check and training captains will be used for 6 months while the local pilots build experience on type , 10 local pilots (Shorts 360 and Casa 212 captains and FOs) have already done the ATP sim training at Oxford.
Some expat crews and check and training captains will be used for 6 months while the local pilots build experience on type , 10 local pilots (Shorts 360 and Casa 212 captains and FOs) have already done the ATP sim training at Oxford.
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G-JEMD arrived Malta from CVT late this pm dept tomorrow on ferry to Deraya Air Taxi
The ATP was supposed to leave on Monday but was held up due to a fault with one of the engines , turned out to be a microswitch . The aircraft have been parked for a couple of years and were fine during test flights and then when it came to do the ferry it spat the dummy.
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Hi Malcolm , are you sitting in the tower at malta or what ?
G-JEME should be coming through in a couple of weeks also
G-JEME should be coming through in a couple of weeks also
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Hi Malcolm , are you sitting in the tower at malta or what ?
G-JEME should be coming through in a couple of weeks also
I wish i was sitting there in the AC .We also had SE-DRN Bae146-200F to Indonesia a few weeks ago and I can see that there is another Bae146 routing as below:
BAe 146 -200 2139 PK- Aviastar Mandiri delivery 28-29jul09 YYC-YTH-YFB-KEF-MMX, C-reg ex C-GRNU
Hi Malcolm , are you sitting in the tower at malta or what ?
G-JEME should be coming through in a couple of weeks also
I wish i was sitting there in the AC .We also had SE-DRN Bae146-200F to Indonesia a few weeks ago and I can see that there is another Bae146 routing as below:
BAe 146 -200 2139 PK- Aviastar Mandiri delivery 28-29jul09 YYC-YTH-YFB-KEF-MMX, C-reg ex C-GRNU
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Yes , Indo is rapidly becoming the new hot market for BAE-146 and RJ due to the excellent short field capability. The only issue is they have to be less than 20 yrs old to be put on the PK register for the first time.
Most of these aircraft are headed for East Indonesia (Papua).
Aviastar totalled their 146-200 a few months ago at Wamena , that airport has swallowed a 146 and a C-130 this year.
Most of these aircraft are headed for East Indonesia (Papua).
Aviastar totalled their 146-200 a few months ago at Wamena , that airport has swallowed a 146 and a C-130 this year.
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Hope you've got a good spare stock together with aircraft. ATP parts available only in Europe and some non-aircraft specific in US, so any shipment will take 3-4 days to Jayapura.
Just out of interest what your performance calcs suggesting for available take-off and landing weight on typical day at Wamena?
Just out of interest what your performance calcs suggesting for available take-off and landing weight on typical day at Wamena?
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Tri-MG airlines is still flying B727 cargo , most of the pax 727's were parked in 2005 / 2006 and are in the process of being scrapped at Cengkareng now.
Some 732s still flying with Sriwijaya , Air Fast and others.
My office overlooks the runway at Halim and it's always great to watch the 727 take off and feel the ground shake like it did yesterday afternoon
Cargo one , I don't have the numbers on hand but from memory the ATPs are down about 750 kg from max payload for Wamena. I helped put the deal together but not involved in the daily operations other than checking up periodically on the 2 ATPs for an overseas party .
The aircraft is chock full of spares and consumables being ferried out with the aircraft and we have a good supply line for additional items.
Some 732s still flying with Sriwijaya , Air Fast and others.
My office overlooks the runway at Halim and it's always great to watch the 727 take off and feel the ground shake like it did yesterday afternoon
Cargo one , I don't have the numbers on hand but from memory the ATPs are down about 750 kg from max payload for Wamena. I helped put the deal together but not involved in the daily operations other than checking up periodically on the 2 ATPs for an overseas party .
The aircraft is chock full of spares and consumables being ferried out with the aircraft and we have a good supply line for additional items.
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Hope you've got a good spare stock together with aircraft. ATP parts available only in Europe and some non-aircraft specific in US
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Dunzilla, close to 60 of 64 ever built aircraft are in Europe and spares are there as well. Sometimes you can see part numbers available somewhere else including Far East and Australia, but usually they are in "removed as serviceabe" condition without suitable paperwork. Unless BAE has positioned part of their stock to different location, I don't see who & where have lots of ATP parts there.
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Dunzilla, close to 60 of 64 ever built aircraft are in Europe and spares are there as well. Sometimes you can see part numbers available somewhere else including Far East and Australia, but usually they are in "removed as serviceabe" condition without suitable paperwork. Unless BAE has positioned part of their stock to different location, I don't see who & where have lots of ATP parts there.
As far as I know, BAe hold very little in terms of parts, whereas Westair own majority.
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G-JEME launching from UK tomorrow .... ETA Jakarta on Sunday
The ATPF is how I imagine an old HS-748 would come out of an episode of 'Pimp my Plane' except they stuck the sun roof on the side of the aircraft
The ATPF is how I imagine an old HS-748 would come out of an episode of 'Pimp my Plane' except they stuck the sun roof on the side of the aircraft