TNT Flight Ops

[daraireland]

Hello,

Im doing a study on the TNT air network.

Could someone please provide info on which a/c go where, times and general info on the operations out of LGG.

Thanks

[Castaway2008]

Here's somewhere to start from-

.:: TNT Airways ::.

But I'm sure there's plenty of more info availible from those who do or have worked directly/contracted for them.

[daraireland]

Cheers for the assistance,

I was aware of TAY website, it was my first port of call. Any info on aircraft routes. Example, SNN,ORK and STN, are these direct to LGG or are there stop overs in MAN or LPL or EMA?

[mmeteesside]

STN is direct (A300 from what i remember), SNN is now linked with DUB I think (on a 733 i think)
BFS is linked with EMA with an A300, EDI is direct 146, LPL 146 pretty sure thats all, CWL and MME have been dropped.

[Castaway2008]

SNN/ORK is now dropped the only inbound to IE terminates @ DUB - they van the air exports to DUB daily where the driver overnights & picks up the inbound the following AM,it normally hits SNN/ORK @ approx 0915hrs. Other express carriers have approx 6 to 10 stops done before TNT get on the road these days.I can only assume that once business picks up then they will reinstate another leg in IE but I'm sure ORK has priced itself out of the freight market due to high fees.FedEx fly's CDG-ORK-SNN-ORK-CDG with minimal ground time in ORK.

[daraireland]

Didnt know about ORK and SNN being dropped but i cant say im suprised. 4 aircraft serving a small island was a bit much.

Any tips on flight ops in Germany, Sweden, Norway and Denmark? please.

[mmeteesside]

I'll have more info tomorrow but for now, Athens and Larnaca are together on a 733, Warsaw and Gdansk on a 146, there are loads more but what is on what I'm not sure.

[Da Do Ron Ron]

If you download the flight schedules off the website it gives you everything you want to know...

[daraireland]

I got the schedule last week. It didnt mention ORK or SNN drop. Any routes from OSL, STO SVG and Germany?

[EI-022]

OSL is served with GOT, I think. The flight ops plan is on the TAY website. Not sure if the Road -Network is online, maybe someone in the know will have more info on that side of things.

[flying officer kite]

2 of the 6 A300s already retired. I know one of them is already taped up and in the desert. Personally i think TNT 767s would be nice

Incidently with the advent of the 767-300F i think it has a greater capacity than the A300, 54 Tons rings in my head

[mmeteesside]

Looks like A300's are all but gone now, OO-TZD left today for USA. Only Liege-East Midlands-Belfast left on an A300 now it would appear.
TNT have leased in a Gestair 757F to provide another 757 on the network.

[Acid-drop]

Looks also like TNT is using a lot more icelandair again while keeping ABX

[ABUKABOY]

I just hope that TNT retain at least two A300's , even if only one route, (LGG - EMA - BFS), is earmarked for their exclusive use. Retaining only one of anything spells disaster. The TNT A300's are remarkably well maintained, but can still fall over on a regular basis, (as well as, admittedly, not even induce a minor defect for a whole fortnight!). Nobody has A300F's to lend "locally", and transfer of the load on to another a/c type always causes havoc and DELAY. The route in question was always "ring-fenced" where allocating a/c was concerned, as it was always deemed important that it ran, and with no DELAY.

There you are, just taught a whole class of grandmas to suck eggs. The coal-face and their immediate bosses know their jobs really well, but that's not to say the higher, more remote echelons of TNT do not need reminding of my opening gambit. Stranger, more illogical things have happened there, believe you me!

[CargoOne]

One aircraft in the fleet or two aircraft for just one short route is not very financially sound. I guess if they want to stick to A300 capacity they will soon get MNG or other Turkish operator.

[ABUKABOY]

There used to be a time when TNT wanted to own all the aircraft used on its routes. The situation of having idle aircraft scattered round Europe all day sat easy with them, because then at least the aircraft would be available for the time-sensitive evening departures into the hub, rather than have some 3rd-party aircraft late back off a charter screw up the schedule. This situation still exists, but will be steadily undermined as further outsiders are let on board.
TNT like to be in OVERALL control of their operation and aircraft, a policy that has served them very well in the past.

[CargoOne]

Anyway TNT subcontrating all below-10t capacity.
And they can just get MNG or someone else to put aircraft dedicated for this route, still cheaper than running its own.

[MrIkea]

Jup, I'm afraid in the future there will be a lot more sub-contractors at TNT & DHL.

There should be a decent European regulation, that at least these sub-contractors are European companies... Instead of slashing our jobs & out-source them to the turks & Americans...

[JW411]

You mean just like TNT leasing their 744s and crews to Emirates or is it OK if things go in the opposite direction?

[TckVs]

Good point well made.

But TNT only lease an aircraft to EK.

Mind you they sub-contract a lot of their 400 crews. Strange that EK don't just use they same people direct, should be cheaper. But what do I know.

Good luck to us all.