B747 Tailstand
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B747 Tailstand
Does anyone make or has anyone seen a portable tailstand for the B747F?
When I say "portable" I mean something that can be loaded on the aircraft.
Thanks,
Wes Afra
When I say "portable" I mean something that can be loaded on the aircraft.
Thanks,
Wes Afra
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I'm assuming from your handle that you are located in Lome, but I could be wrong. Anyway, if that's the case see if the Atlas ground folks are still there and they can give you the low down on what you need to do.
CR2 pretty much sized it up so I refer to his post. As to tethering the nose gear to a push tug, at most places their a premium and if their sitting in front of your airplane the meter is running.
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CR2 pretty much sized it up so I refer to his post. As to tethering the nose gear to a push tug, at most places their a premium and if their sitting in front of your airplane the meter is running.
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"I'm assuming from your handle that you are located in Lome, but I could be wrong. Anyway, if that's the case see if the Atlas ground folks are still there and they can give you the low down on what you need to do."
Just make sure they double check the section on loading oilwell
equipment.
Just make sure they double check the section on loading oilwell
equipment.
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Sorry 18 Wheeler, I respectfully disagree. I takes a darned good effort to tip a 74; a L/M's job is to ensure that does not happen.
Tail-stands are rarely used correctly; once installed, there should be someone monitoring the strain-gauge to ensure the tail area is not being over-stressed. The tail-stand should then be adjusted. How often do you see that? What I have seen a couple of times is the tail-stand slip off the "ball", piercing the APU.
More trouble than they're worth. A good loadie is cheaper.
Tail-stands are rarely used correctly; once installed, there should be someone monitoring the strain-gauge to ensure the tail area is not being over-stressed. The tail-stand should then be adjusted. How often do you see that? What I have seen a couple of times is the tail-stand slip off the "ball", piercing the APU.
More trouble than they're worth. A good loadie is cheaper.
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Gotta agree with CR2, there are a lot of aircraft that are trickier to load that don't have the provision for a tail stand.
Follow the procedures and load sequence & you won't tip it. Yes, people make mistakes but isn't that the result of man/machine interface & if you get it that wrong, even a tail stand or nose tether won't stop the aircraft from being grounded.
RT
Follow the procedures and load sequence & you won't tip it. Yes, people make mistakes but isn't that the result of man/machine interface & if you get it that wrong, even a tail stand or nose tether won't stop the aircraft from being grounded.
RT
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Wes Afra,
Used to work for a 747F handler. I understand your problem - some carriers insist on using one when loading heavy lumps. We had 2 tailstands - 1 made by Hydro (http://www.hydro.de/), and 1 Dedienne. Unfortunately I think Dedienne went into liquidation.
If you manage to find one, be warned that it will probably need re-calibrating after transport! Good luck.
Chris
Used to work for a 747F handler. I understand your problem - some carriers insist on using one when loading heavy lumps. We had 2 tailstands - 1 made by Hydro (http://www.hydro.de/), and 1 Dedienne. Unfortunately I think Dedienne went into liquidation.
If you manage to find one, be warned that it will probably need re-calibrating after transport! Good luck.
Chris
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Thanks Chris,
I will spend some time on that web site.
Got to thinking-if an airport has a specialized piece of equipment like a loader that will reach a B747F, surely they will also have a tailstand. Don't you think?
Wes Afra
I will spend some time on that web site.
Got to thinking-if an airport has a specialized piece of equipment like a loader that will reach a B747F, surely they will also have a tailstand. Don't you think?
Wes Afra
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One more thing...
This aircraft has a placard back by the cargo door that says something about not loading or unloading cargo without a tailstand.
I remember some stories back in the days of the GATX door when the tailstand was removed before the door was closed and the tailstand had to be reinstalled before the loadmaster could close the door!
Wes Afra
This aircraft has a placard back by the cargo door that says something about not loading or unloading cargo without a tailstand.
I remember some stories back in the days of the GATX door when the tailstand was removed before the door was closed and the tailstand had to be reinstalled before the loadmaster could close the door!
Wes Afra
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I have handled many well known and topical B747 operator and totally agree if you do it properly............... u won't ever tip one.
If in doubt tie the nose. Best I ever saw was a long oleo on a DC-8 73 bouncing but never more.
Loading the tail first is just waiting for a problem. An expensive one.
Do it right and you get out on time, in trim and everybody is happy.
Don't cut corners
If in doubt tie the nose. Best I ever saw was a long oleo on a DC-8 73 bouncing but never more.
Loading the tail first is just waiting for a problem. An expensive one.
Do it right and you get out on time, in trim and everybody is happy.
Don't cut corners
