B-KAG Engine strike at MAN
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yes 6 weeks has been quoted, this is due to the fact there are no spare nose/fan cowls, which I'm told will take 2 weeks to repair in Singapore, so they have to be removed, sent, repaired, shipped back and refitted.
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Female chinese Captain!
Just for info. The captain was a chinese female, married to somebody in the KA trainings department. According to some KA F/O's who flew with her on the Airbus she was quite afraid of bad wx conditions and reportably unconfortable on the 400, looking to go back on the airbus.
My guess she won't be transfering to CX freighters!
The LH Airbus 320 in Hamburg was a female driver too!
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My guess she won't be transfering to CX freighters!
The LH Airbus 320 in Hamburg was a female driver too!
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Flight Crew Named
The crew have been named today as....
Captain Wan Win Lowe
First officer Wat Wen Wong
Flight Engineer Foo King El
Captain Wan Win Lowe
First officer Wat Wen Wong
Flight Engineer Foo King El
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When landing at MAN the day after the incident, I noticed a nice set of 747 tyre tracks, they were well left of the normal rubber marks and at about 30 degrees to the centreline, I presume this is the impact ! / touchdown point for B-KAG ??
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Great shot !
No weight on the landing gear at this point is there ?
So add a heavy landing combined with wing down and Manchesters cobbled runway, I think its possible
No weight on the landing gear at this point is there ?
So add a heavy landing combined with wing down and Manchesters cobbled runway, I think its possible
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...brilliant? If you're six years old.
Borat you buffoon. 'Just for info'.
I see all the smart-a*se, armchair-experts out in force now with a bit of smug racism thrown in for good measure. I assume you are wannabe (PPL's) as nobody who's ever been in this situation, flown in HK typhoons or battled a heavy 74 in max x-wind would ever be as arrogant as to post in this manner.
PPRune. The 'P' bit stands for 'Professional'
Borat you buffoon. 'Just for info'.
I see all the smart-a*se, armchair-experts out in force now with a bit of smug racism thrown in for good measure. I assume you are wannabe (PPL's) as nobody who's ever been in this situation, flown in HK typhoons or battled a heavy 74 in max x-wind would ever be as arrogant as to post in this manner.
PPRune. The 'P' bit stands for 'Professional'
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......professional? A bit non PC perhaps, but not bad. The big thing about max crosswind gusting conditions is that if your little ring tightens too much, GO AROUND and find somewhere else to land. The need to save face and get it down on your intended runway has cost many a life in this industry over the years. It's just not worth it. Ever.
What was the wind like in AMS at the time, I wonder?
What was the wind like in AMS at the time, I wonder?
there but for the grace.......
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Just out of interest, from an engineering point of view what checks are required of the rest of the wing/strut/pod structure after an pod strike incident like this? There must be huge stresses placed on the wing to strut and strut to pod fittings. Although Boeing builds em good, there must be a point beyond which it's becomes a lot more involved than just a bit of panel beating?
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Just out of interest, from an engineering point of view what checks are required of the rest of the wing/strut/pod structure after an pod strike incident like this? There must be huge stresses placed on the wing to strut and strut to pod fittings. Although Boeing builds em good, there must be a point beyond which it's becomes a lot more involved than just a bit of panel beating?
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As an instructor with over 1000 hrs training Chineese airline cadets. it does not surprise me in the least. They have an attitude to flying that simply horrifies me, unfortunately it doesnt change when they get onto the jets.
Airmanship is a concept that they just cannot under stand, and they dont want to understand.......to put it bluntly.
Racism?........no, just the way it is and nothing is going to change it ever.
Airmanship is a concept that they just cannot under stand, and they dont want to understand.......to put it bluntly.
Racism?........no, just the way it is and nothing is going to change it ever.
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You are 100% correct, its nothing to do with Racism its just a very different way of thinking... lets face it many here in Hong Kong can't master walking in a straight line or get confused when other drivers flash their lights at them for doing 40kph in the fastlane 
....... So you have to expect the western and Asian flying culture to be .... different.
....... So you have to expect the western and Asian flying culture to be .... different.
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Inboard engine strike? Well it can happen, because it did happen. Needs a bit of work to achieve it though. A serious Rate of Descent on touch-down to compress a lot of oleos, plus a ‘Bad Attitude’.
What’s the normal deck angle on a 747 approach, 12 degrees? But, if you work at it, you can still land a 747 nose wheel first. BA showed me one night at Perth. I was ready for it as we’d been strangely nose down throughout the approach – the rest of the punters weren’t - and were very surprised when ceiling panels came down around their ears as the main gear hit.
What’s the normal deck angle on a 747 approach, 12 degrees? But, if you work at it, you can still land a 747 nose wheel first. BA showed me one night at Perth. I was ready for it as we’d been strangely nose down throughout the approach – the rest of the punters weren’t - and were very surprised when ceiling panels came down around their ears as the main gear hit.
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Those of you that think I was just having a pop at the Chinese, I nearly forgot to mention the repairs will be carried out under the supervision of Manchester based engineer Arthur Bleedin Cowlingon.