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Old 22nd Nov 2001, 02:32
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Atlas to compete against Fedex and UPS.........I don't think so.
And have they overlooked the fact that just down the road is a top notch operator of 747-400s based in Luxembourg?
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Old 22nd Nov 2001, 12:31
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Beaver,

It seems that different stories are told at Atlas and TNT.
I know for a fact that several Captains at TNT, have been to an interview/briefing where they were told that their training would be paid for by Atlas, and that all three aircraft would be crewed by TNT.
It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.
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Old 26th Nov 2001, 19:43
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AACS are curently recruiting for a Stansted operation on the 747-200F. Can anybody give me any background to the Atlas/AACS story? Was AACS set up as a strike-breaking operation, and if so, is the original dispute over? Any info gratefully received.
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 15:59
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Atlas Air has recently launched a new product called ' The Atlas Air Partnership Programme'. In brief...they are launching dedicated freighters connecting Latin America North America Europe Asia Africa and the Middle East. This will be achieved by opening 3 new hubs in Anchorage, Liege and Miami.
Let's see..that makes about 6 dedicated B747-400F's operating more than 350 block hours a month. How they do it? Create partnership with ACMI customers such as TNT to get traffic rights on the route. Ok...fine, TNT is sourcing part of the freight. Apart from TNT they are also exploiting traffic route authorities from Polar.
What it does? and what it will do ?

a//It allows a US carrier to hub its operation in the centre of the European Union. Yet have not seen any reactions in the press...

b//Atlas, through its customer base is adopting a 'hop on or get off policy' tying its customers to Block Space Agreement on 6 months contract. Humm, isn't that common carriage?

c//it will create havoc among other scheduled cargo carriers. What are other cargo airlines going to do about this....just let it happen? I wonder what Cargolux, AF, BA, are going to do about this...

d//Atlas Air's plan is to destroy the wet lease concept, compete against its own customer base.

e// Such a 'global reach programme, suggest that Atlas is broke and want's a quick buck out of this.

f// This is a personal view, however a perfect recipe to go bust.

h// Atlas, is something like 10 years old now and should stick to what they were created to do. Would Micheal Chowdry have ever considered swicthing from the wetlease mareket to common carriage??

Your reactions welcome, can anyone see this work?
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 16:56
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The big picture is that Atlas is top heavy in capacity right now. What's helping to keep the company afloat in its present size are the AMC (Air Mobility Command) contracts and a surge of Christmas cargo.

The US and most of the rest of the World are in a recession that is deep and brutal with no imminent recovery. Too many 74s sitting idle on ramps more than 8 hours per day, and too many crews flying only 41 hours per month eat up lots of cash. Come January, more airplanes, other than just Polar's -100s, will have to be parked! Not a pretty picture.
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 19:43
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Hang in there glue-ball. Over at the "G-Spot" we're seeing some pick-up in the ACMI world (and NOT Air Force or USPS). Maybe the worst is behind us (I'm praying....)
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It is easy to judge, fly the line and see the loads, that will tell you the story. Think positive for a change.
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