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Old 5th May 2001, 15:20
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Dark Skies gave me an idea. Where is the worst place you've every had the misfortune to go to in an -F?
I'll start with Abijan. Nothing works without plenty of dash. Disorganised. Regular delays, 4hrs ground time for a partial 74 offload.
I'm sure you guys have some good ones from the DC8 (never flew one myself).

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Old 5th May 2001, 15:26
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Cairo for me, flying on behalf of Air Memphis.These guys let you wait 8 hours on the a/c without a gpu, nothing.They always seem to manage to get the aircraft going just before we're running out of duty time.Never had any problem further down south.Exept for Luanda....same crap over there.

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Old 5th May 2001, 16:03
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Sounds like Nile Aviation was the handling agent! We used to fly charters into there just before the Gulf War. Full loads of gasmasks.

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Old 5th May 2001, 16:17
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No, actually National Aviation.Just as bad as Memphis.
 
Old 5th May 2001, 18:18
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The worst ? Medina, KSA !


(... and the best fuel stop airport in the world: Santa Maria, Azores)
 
Old 5th May 2001, 19:19
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Just remembered. Barcelona & Malaga. Absolute pits.
Did a charter out of BCN to VCP a few years ago. 26 hours delay. Iberia simply said they had no time to palletize the freight.
Malaga: 8 hours to load. First of all they fixed their highloader with a big hammer, we got started, they went for lunch/siesta. Pallets built like sh*t, wouldn't move. Had to use a block & tackle to tow one of them in.

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Old 5th May 2001, 19:30
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Try Dodoma Tanzania closely followed by Niamey Two nightmare places

Nice forum well done
 
Old 6th May 2001, 15:26
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Just for starters....Bamako....Lagos....Dakar(Senegal)....Ouagadougou and Liverpool in December doing mail!

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Old 6th May 2001, 20:43
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Liverpool is far worse than Dakar. Reeds handling are all far too busy being film stars to deal with dirty ol freighters like us.
 
Old 6th May 2001, 21:08
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CDG, horrible!!!!!!.

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Old 6th May 2001, 23:11
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Port Harcourt has to be close to taking the biscuit.

Come to think of it, anywhere in Nigeria.

Most places I have been to in India for that matter.
 
Old 7th May 2001, 03:01
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hey cargorat
the worst place we go to is where i think you're based - LUX - we all hate going there
i'd rather go to lagos
 
Old 7th May 2001, 07:33
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Bamako is high up on the list.
Also agree on India. Flew a wet lease for Air -India Cargo for a while. Gets old fast.

LUX is okay. Good food and beer in that town.

The very worst..?
Hmm, Try La-Romana, held us hortage for a day
awaiting a $300.00 bribe. Armed guards circling the plane.

After we got out of there I prayed to the Maker that a big hurricane would wipe the place out. Sure enough, a week later the big one hit smack on.
There is a God.

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Old 7th May 2001, 12:29
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Antonov man. Lux does have it's congestion problems. Mind you I've often come back from somewhere or other swearing I'll never complain about LG again!

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Old 7th May 2001, 13:58
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Tanger, Casablanca - constant delays.

N'Djamena - actually nobody interested in your aircraft.

Barcelona, Vigo, Vittoria - can not believe that it is european country

Sheremetyevo (Moscow) - we want this, that and other... Go (2 km walk each way, not by apron transport) and sign these papers. 16 hrs delay in January, -24C.

Southhampton (UK) - oh **** , we have no forklift with long forks!!! Hmmm, we have confirmed such forklift avail by SITA? 12 hrs delay.

Shannon with Servisair - we have no enough manpower. Wait for half an hour. Ooops. Wait again. And again. And again. 6 hrs delay.

Vagar (Faroe Islands) - final approach... Oh, **** .. The car parking behind my house is much bigger than this runway (4100ft)!!!

 
Old 7th May 2001, 14:45
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What's wrong with Vitoria (LEVT?) - Never had a problem there (offloading fish ex SCL).


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Old 7th May 2001, 15:00
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VIT - typical Spanish problem: handling is not interested in your aircraft. They are state-owned, they not agree to work outside working hours (even 1-1,5 hrs after end of their working time). Also they have "siesta" half a day. Actually they not worse than other Spanish airports.
 
Old 7th May 2001, 16:01
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Who handles you C1? IB or DHL. Can only base on my experiences there (maybe 10 times); just offloading we're usually in & out in 75mins or so using IB. I always thought it was the only place in Spain that DID work!
Oh well, as long as I never have to go to BCN again!

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Old 7th May 2001, 16:35
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We using IB. Are you operating to VIT on scheduled basis? Then I can believe it is OK. But we operated mostly ad-hoc/charters to VIT.
 
Old 7th May 2001, 16:38
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Ad Hoc. Haven't been there for a while though. We also always send a Loadmaster there to make sure things get sorted. Wouldn't leave them by themselves.

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