B747-200F.range
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B747-200F.range
Hi
Can anybody tell me where I can find details of range/payload info for
B747-200Fand MD11F?
Cannot find anything on Boeing site.
Any advice/suggestions appreciated
Thanks
Can anybody tell me where I can find details of range/payload info for
B747-200Fand MD11F?
Cannot find anything on Boeing site.
Any advice/suggestions appreciated
Thanks
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For the Classic try here http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/747200f.html
For the MD-11 try here http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/md11f.html
For the MD-11 try here http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/md11f.html
For the Classic try here http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/747200f.html
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Some details about the 200F payload/range
Hola gsky -
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I do not know what you plan to do with the payload/range data for the 200F. If it just as curiosity, I believe the Boeing data provided to you, here above is sufficient. But if you analyse the detailed data of "which 200F" can carry "how much and how far", it depends of the many versions and options that were offered by Boeing since the early 1970s, such as maximum weight options, zero fuel weight options and maximum landing weight options...
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As an example, some 200Fs come with a maximum takeoff weight of 351,000 or 356,000 kg (the older planes), later with 362,000, and finally 371,000 or 377,000 kg for the latest options. For the maximum zero fuel weight, most come with 267,000 kg, but there is a 281,000 kg ZFW option. For maximum landing weight, most are limited to 285,000 kg, but some again have a 302,000 kg limitation...
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The payloads available, for a typical 200F which have a BOW of some 160,000 kg and a max ZFW of 267,000 lbs would be 107,000 kg... but their range would be quite different, depending their max certificated takeoff weight. A 200F certificated for higher takeoff weight would be able to carry that same payload of 107,000 kg, for nearly 2 more hours, or some 800 or 900 extra nautical miles...
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A few years ago, my airline leased one 200F with more limited maximum takeoff weight, to operate from Argentina to Europe, and was limited by its range to land in Las Palmas and Recife, to refuel. This also required the use of two full crews (flight/duty time limitations). Then, we leased another 200F with heavier certificated gross weight, and were able to operate the same route, with only one stop (in Sal, Cape Verde), and augmented crew, rather than two crews.
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So, you see, selecting the "proper" airplane is somewhat important. A 228F, is not same as a 230F, which is not same as a 246F, or a 271C, or a 281F... Not only different engines, but also fuel capacity, a nose loader or just the SCD... then all these "converted" SFs that were passenger planes, and now the 300SFs that are getting on the market as cargo planes...
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Many "bean counters" just say "get a 200F to do that"... yes, sure... but me, as pilot, would say "which 200F do you specifically want...? What specific route will you operate... how much payload"...? Airline "bean counters" have very limited aeronautical knowledge, unfortunately... while most pilots could tell their airline fleet planners "which one plane to get"...!
xxx
This story reminds me of the 747-400 selection by the "glorious bean counters" of my airline (rather than the less expensive 300s we could have done with)... They selected the 400s because it was a "two pilot crew", but forgot that the sectors would require 3 pilots anyway (or which... 2 expensive captains and a F/O, rather than Captain, F/O and F/E)...
xxx
Happy contrails...
xxx
I do not know what you plan to do with the payload/range data for the 200F. If it just as curiosity, I believe the Boeing data provided to you, here above is sufficient. But if you analyse the detailed data of "which 200F" can carry "how much and how far", it depends of the many versions and options that were offered by Boeing since the early 1970s, such as maximum weight options, zero fuel weight options and maximum landing weight options...
xxx
As an example, some 200Fs come with a maximum takeoff weight of 351,000 or 356,000 kg (the older planes), later with 362,000, and finally 371,000 or 377,000 kg for the latest options. For the maximum zero fuel weight, most come with 267,000 kg, but there is a 281,000 kg ZFW option. For maximum landing weight, most are limited to 285,000 kg, but some again have a 302,000 kg limitation...
xxx
The payloads available, for a typical 200F which have a BOW of some 160,000 kg and a max ZFW of 267,000 lbs would be 107,000 kg... but their range would be quite different, depending their max certificated takeoff weight. A 200F certificated for higher takeoff weight would be able to carry that same payload of 107,000 kg, for nearly 2 more hours, or some 800 or 900 extra nautical miles...
xxx
A few years ago, my airline leased one 200F with more limited maximum takeoff weight, to operate from Argentina to Europe, and was limited by its range to land in Las Palmas and Recife, to refuel. This also required the use of two full crews (flight/duty time limitations). Then, we leased another 200F with heavier certificated gross weight, and were able to operate the same route, with only one stop (in Sal, Cape Verde), and augmented crew, rather than two crews.
xxx
So, you see, selecting the "proper" airplane is somewhat important. A 228F, is not same as a 230F, which is not same as a 246F, or a 271C, or a 281F... Not only different engines, but also fuel capacity, a nose loader or just the SCD... then all these "converted" SFs that were passenger planes, and now the 300SFs that are getting on the market as cargo planes...
xxx
Many "bean counters" just say "get a 200F to do that"... yes, sure... but me, as pilot, would say "which 200F do you specifically want...? What specific route will you operate... how much payload"...? Airline "bean counters" have very limited aeronautical knowledge, unfortunately... while most pilots could tell their airline fleet planners "which one plane to get"...!
xxx
This story reminds me of the 747-400 selection by the "glorious bean counters" of my airline (rather than the less expensive 300s we could have done with)... They selected the 400s because it was a "two pilot crew", but forgot that the sectors would require 3 pilots anyway (or which... 2 expensive captains and a F/O, rather than Captain, F/O and F/E)...
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Happy contrails...
