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Thanks rogerdabootler, you seem pretty open and frank with what you know and do. Might contact you soon to see what we can do together in the same direction.
The IL-76 is way beyond its legal life-extension limitations and provisions. The CAA in Harare (that despicable place called Zimbabwe) have simply been renewing its annual C of A's without Design Buro approval and prolongations. This is a model -T and one of the very first ever built and shouldnt be flying anymore. It is even rumoured to belong to the ZAF and on "loan" to Avient to commercialize it.
With their disregard for most things decent and civilized in life, - the Zimbabweans are little perturbed by unimportant requirements such as manufacturers prescriptions and requirements. Thats exactly also my point with these antique DC-10's that Avient are now taking over and flying, theyre also now overseen and regulated by the Zimbabweans, after the EU banned DAS from operating them.
Some will then say pipe-down and leave this GROWING airline to get on with their job. Well, sad news, you guy's up north better duck each time you see one of them coming overhead.
Also thought that textiles are some of the banned commodities in Nigeria, but good luck to them if they are rustling them through - they'll get caught and be exposed, same as their shinnanigans in DRC were.
No, - my question remains - who is aware of the tobacco products (Bombay Masala) being round-tripped - the truth will out!
The IL-76 is way beyond its legal life-extension limitations and provisions. The CAA in Harare (that despicable place called Zimbabwe) have simply been renewing its annual C of A's without Design Buro approval and prolongations. This is a model -T and one of the very first ever built and shouldnt be flying anymore. It is even rumoured to belong to the ZAF and on "loan" to Avient to commercialize it.
With their disregard for most things decent and civilized in life, - the Zimbabweans are little perturbed by unimportant requirements such as manufacturers prescriptions and requirements. Thats exactly also my point with these antique DC-10's that Avient are now taking over and flying, theyre also now overseen and regulated by the Zimbabweans, after the EU banned DAS from operating them.
Some will then say pipe-down and leave this GROWING airline to get on with their job. Well, sad news, you guy's up north better duck each time you see one of them coming overhead.
Also thought that textiles are some of the banned commodities in Nigeria, but good luck to them if they are rustling them through - they'll get caught and be exposed, same as their shinnanigans in DRC were.
No, - my question remains - who is aware of the tobacco products (Bombay Masala) being round-tripped - the truth will out!
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Old DC10s
I am a bit late with this, but AAL, what does it matter about old aircraft, it makes no odds if they are maintained, the 777 that fell out of the sky at LHR wasnt old
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The DC-10's are registered in Zimbabwe and regulated and overseen by this dysfunctional regime.
The DC-10's had their C-Checks done in Indonesia, - Garuda?
Speak under correction but virtualy all of Indonesia are included in the EU ban, including Garuda.
If Avient's Zimbabwe registered and Indonesian maintained DC-10's are any good why are they experiencing so many technical problems.
You guys better duck or take cover every time you see one coming. Remember, regret always comes too late.
The DC-10's had their C-Checks done in Indonesia, - Garuda?
Speak under correction but virtualy all of Indonesia are included in the EU ban, including Garuda.
If Avient's Zimbabwe registered and Indonesian maintained DC-10's are any good why are they experiencing so many technical problems.
You guys better duck or take cover every time you see one coming. Remember, regret always comes too late.
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AAL,
I met the Zimbabwe CAA guys in Nairobi auditing an outfit. They are highly professional and respected (as is evidenced by their presence in many CAA around Africa as consultants). Also, if we are honest, despite their ageing fleet, Zimbabwe still has (just about ...) a national carrier operating into Europe.. its a while since I've seen the Flying Crane flapping about
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I understand where you are coming from and I agree that AVIENT stinks of rot, but I dont think that the Zim CAA have much say in the matter and do their best to make sure checks and balances are in place. The chap I met spends months in France each year inspecting their setup.
As for sleeping partners, I doubt this Andrew Smith fellow would give away much equity but if there is a lease on the IL-76 well then I guess its only a matter of time before one screws the other .. although to be fair they seem to have been in bed for some time now
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I met the Zimbabwe CAA guys in Nairobi auditing an outfit. They are highly professional and respected (as is evidenced by their presence in many CAA around Africa as consultants). Also, if we are honest, despite their ageing fleet, Zimbabwe still has (just about ...) a national carrier operating into Europe.. its a while since I've seen the Flying Crane flapping about
.I understand where you are coming from and I agree that AVIENT stinks of rot, but I dont think that the Zim CAA have much say in the matter and do their best to make sure checks and balances are in place. The chap I met spends months in France each year inspecting their setup.
As for sleeping partners, I doubt this Andrew Smith fellow would give away much equity but if there is a lease on the IL-76 well then I guess its only a matter of time before one screws the other .. although to be fair they seem to have been in bed for some time now
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Coleman, Not wishing to denegrate individuals working in and for the aviation fraternity in Zimbabwe. Many of them are fine fellows as you say. However if you observed closely over the last two or three months you will have noticed the many incidents due to lacking maintenance or perhaps ultimately, lack of funds.
Avient consists of two company's. One registered in UK and one in Zimbabwe. Not sure to what extent Andy fits into the Zimbabwe one, but it is headed buy Mr Lewiss Kling, and consists a partnership with senior Zimbwean Generals, and that all Avient's aircraft are registered in the Zimbabwean company.
Zimbabweans are generally very good people, but not withstanding the objectivity and professionalism of this inspector that you met - please know that things there work differently now if you want to retain your job and meagre income.
Avient consists of two company's. One registered in UK and one in Zimbabwe. Not sure to what extent Andy fits into the Zimbabwe one, but it is headed buy Mr Lewiss Kling, and consists a partnership with senior Zimbwean Generals, and that all Avient's aircraft are registered in the Zimbabwean company.
Zimbabweans are generally very good people, but not withstanding the objectivity and professionalism of this inspector that you met - please know that things there work differently now if you want to retain your job and meagre income.
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I am sure they are under pressure - they can't be too badly paid - the lads up in Kenya were on huge allowances !!. I guess if Zimbabwe's Generals can rig the results of a an election, then the outcome of a C of A inspection can't be too hard to bend.
The answer is for the EU authorities to ramp check all Zim aircraft after every arrival (for stowaways frozen to the gear if nothing else). That puts the pressure back on Zim. As nobody but Martinniair (I think) go to Zim anymore the reciprocal revenge ramp checks are no longer an issue !!.
The answer is for the EU authorities to ramp check all Zim aircraft after every arrival (for stowaways frozen to the gear if nothing else). That puts the pressure back on Zim. As nobody but Martinniair (I think) go to Zim anymore the reciprocal revenge ramp checks are no longer an issue !!.
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Some of the opinions flying around here are almost as balanced as in the African Aviation forum.
The old Das Air 5X-JOE is still in the hangar at Manston, so unless the old management has managed to get something going the last Das aircraft was through the Middle East last September, the aircraft hasn't moved since then. The Das aircraft were actually quite well maintained and the company did not deserve to get banned as its aircraft were to the same standard as most of the American and European DC10s flying around - that ban was down to incompetence on the part of the EU safety oversight. Avient appear to have drawn the heat for being in the right place at the right time to pick up the pieces that were going begging. I have no personal opinion about their management but anybody who is managing to get a DC10 to make money in the present climate must be doing something right, commercially anyway. They may be cutting corners somewhere, I don't know, they may have some unsavoury connections, I don't know, but then neither do a lot of the other contributors I imagine (but then this is a rumour network). There are many other airlines in Africa and Asia (and probably Europe and the Americas) with equally unsavoury connections and operating practices as those being suggested in this thread, just because they are African doesn't necessarily make them good ... or bad. At least there is a bit of employment there for a few people - how long for though?
The old Das Air 5X-JOE is still in the hangar at Manston, so unless the old management has managed to get something going the last Das aircraft was through the Middle East last September, the aircraft hasn't moved since then. The Das aircraft were actually quite well maintained and the company did not deserve to get banned as its aircraft were to the same standard as most of the American and European DC10s flying around - that ban was down to incompetence on the part of the EU safety oversight. Avient appear to have drawn the heat for being in the right place at the right time to pick up the pieces that were going begging. I have no personal opinion about their management but anybody who is managing to get a DC10 to make money in the present climate must be doing something right, commercially anyway. They may be cutting corners somewhere, I don't know, they may have some unsavoury connections, I don't know, but then neither do a lot of the other contributors I imagine (but then this is a rumour network). There are many other airlines in Africa and Asia (and probably Europe and the Americas) with equally unsavoury connections and operating practices as those being suggested in this thread, just because they are African doesn't necessarily make them good ... or bad. At least there is a bit of employment there for a few people - how long for though?
