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hitlist, you don't pay that much tax. Most of your salary is in allowances and yes you will be providing the company with every fapio(government reciept) you can get your hands on. This lets them deduct the taxes as you mentioned. Also, be advised that the contracts are getting better all the time. I'm on my third already and the money has only gone up. Rumor has it
that housing allowance will double soon.
For the next post, right to left seat. The deal is, upgrading is easy if
you have the requirements for a Chinese ATPL. 500 hours and 1 year of command over 12.5
If anyone who is applying as an fo doesn't have this, I suggest you get out your magic marker.
that housing allowance will double soon. For the next post, right to left seat. The deal is, upgrading is easy if
you have the requirements for a Chinese ATPL. 500 hours and 1 year of command over 12.5 If anyone who is applying as an fo doesn't have this, I suggest you get out your magic marker.
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hitlist, missed the first half so... the censor is because that guy was a 
moron. You're right about the ownership but he called it a partner ship and anyone who knows about se asia knows that anything more than 49% ownership is unheard of. So... yes Shenzen is the majority shareholder but... they have little to do with running things.
moron. You're right about the ownership but he called it a partner ship and anyone who knows about se asia knows that anything more than 49% ownership is unheard of. So... yes Shenzen is the majority shareholder but... they have little to do with running things.
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oh money... I don't have the senior fo or cpt contract but I take home about $5000 for doing nothing and 7-8 for a 100 hr month. Per diem is $50 a day (bound to change) and housing is on the way up since it is lowerthan our sister co. If I were to put it simply for all you loyal viewers... better than CAL not as good as KAL more fun than CX. Hopefully that makes sense. The biggest hint is... how much cargo comes out of China? Will the tnc's get better to meet this demand? Will the RNB fall against the dollar? Do you like shiny 744's? (oh ya, Chinese girls are HOT!). I swear, some of these guys really need it spelled out for them so here it is... if you're not with JAL,KAL,EK, or CX (for this region) than you should try your luck at the interview. On that, I got all expense for CAL int and was offered 744 but the chief pilot (nice guy) said that they would put some 200 hr cadet in the left seat before any expat. At least here we are not allowed to hire chinese pilots
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Hi Devil Any,
Could you share some light on ""500 hours and 1 year of command over '12.5'. If anyone who is applying as an fo doesn't have this, I suggest you get out your magic marker.""
What do you mean by 12.5?
What other means are there besides the magic marker if one does not meet the '12.5'?
Ciao and thank you
Akistar
Could you share some light on ""500 hours and 1 year of command over '12.5'. If anyone who is applying as an fo doesn't have this, I suggest you get out your magic marker.""
What do you mean by 12.5?
What other means are there besides the magic marker if one does not meet the '12.5'?
Ciao and thank you
Akistar
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Did the interview in Jan 2006
we had to do 3 writing test, english, CRM, and personnality
Then you were meeting 2 Germans guys for about 30 to 40 minutes
Did not go to the Sim because when I asked them if they could match my working conditions in Japan they said NO,
So I said Thank you and I left
I am still in Japan and I still have better condition
we had to do 3 writing test, english, CRM, and personnality
Then you were meeting 2 Germans guys for about 30 to 40 minutes
Did not go to the Sim because when I asked them if they could match my working conditions in Japan they said NO,
So I said Thank you and I left
I am still in Japan and I still have better condition
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DeViL AnY,
In reality you appear to be a recruiter for Shenzhen Airlines and/or Jade Cargo.
You are unable to provide specific " actual details " of any contract offered and only have danced around the issues, offering statements as to what ,someone, might think possible to occur, sometime in the future. Also, "your lure ---concerning the Chinese girls and --- Commands for FOs" is disingenuous.
But, Nobody is buying what you are trying to sell here.
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Comical & Entertaining
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DeViL AnY,
In reality you appear to be a recruiter for Shenzhen Airlines and/or Jade Cargo.
You are unable to provide specific " actual details " of any contract offered and only have danced around the issues, offering statements as to what ,someone, might think possible to occur, sometime in the future. Also, "your lure ---concerning the Chinese girls and --- Commands for FOs" is disingenuous.
But, Nobody is buying what you are trying to sell here.
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My Comment for your post below:
Comical & Entertaining
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Jade FO T&C's
I'm only doing this because Hitlist is such a . ok, standard salary 38,000 per month (all numbers in RNB). Block 51-80 310/hr. block ovr 80 794/hr. office duty comp 3 blk hrs per office day. Loyalty bonus (3yrs) 345,600. Seniority upgrade 9,600 per month. Relocation 20,000 one time 8,000 per family member. Recurrent allowances: housing 4,200 (this will go up) med 1,600, out of port 16/hr. Travel and education 24,000 per year (same for spouse/child). Main base is SZX and you need a rental contract to get your housing allowance. Sick leave is standard. Transportation between residence and airport is provided. Annual leave is 37 days. Rating is paid by company, for FAA pilots you will go to Alteon and all others will probably go to FRA. So that's the jist... yes for 3 day layover they count one day off. I don't think I can be any clearer about this but this is a place for people who still enjoy this line of work
If you are all about the money then go to JAL Many people are talking about how hard is is to pass the interview and yes it's true (all failed last time), but if you can roll with the punches and still enjoy the excitement of draggin' jets around strange places then come. The money is NOT as great as some places but there are many things to make up for it. This is just my opinion. I've only been at Jade for a short while but I enjoy it, they are nice to me, and I am loyal. I guess it depends on where you are in your career. If you're high up the ladder then you should be at a well established airline. If you are still working out the kinks then there are worse places to be.
HitList- just for you baby... because I like you so much... I was in a rush and I meant 12,500 pounds. I feel bad for you though, I think you've lost the enjoyment in what we do
I am an FO for Jade since March, not a head hunter. I actually don't even deal with those types. I was only trying to help and I would give you the CPT's details if I had them. I do know though that the tax is around 16% and you are completely wrong in your previous post. Why don't you try to get along with people... have you ever heard of a concept called CRM??? Anyways, my advice is don't apply to JADE. With your attitude you would never pass the psyche and it would be a waste of your money. Happy landings though and keep the blue side up ya
. ok, standard salary 38,000 per month (all numbers in RNB). Block 51-80 310/hr. block ovr 80 794/hr. office duty comp 3 blk hrs per office day. Loyalty bonus (3yrs) 345,600. Seniority upgrade 9,600 per month. Relocation 20,000 one time 8,000 per family member. Recurrent allowances: housing 4,200 (this will go up) med 1,600, out of port 16/hr. Travel and education 24,000 per year (same for spouse/child). Main base is SZX and you need a rental contract to get your housing allowance. Sick leave is standard. Transportation between residence and airport is provided. Annual leave is 37 days. Rating is paid by company, for FAA pilots you will go to Alteon and all others will probably go to FRA. So that's the jist... yes for 3 day layover they count one day off. I don't think I can be any clearer about this but this is a place for people who still enjoy this line of work If you are all about the money then go to JAL Many people are talking about how hard is is to pass the interview and yes it's true (all failed last time), but if you can roll with the punches and still enjoy the excitement of draggin' jets around strange places then come. The money is NOT as great as some places but there are many things to make up for it. This is just my opinion. I've only been at Jade for a short while but I enjoy it, they are nice to me, and I am loyal. I guess it depends on where you are in your career. If you're high up the ladder then you should be at a well established airline. If you are still working out the kinks then there are worse places to be. HitList- just for you baby... because I like you so much... I was in a rush and I meant 12,500 pounds. I feel bad for you though, I think you've lost the enjoyment in what we do
I am an FO for Jade since March, not a head hunter. I actually don't even deal with those types. I was only trying to help and I would give you the CPT's details if I had them. I do know though that the tax is around 16% and you are completely wrong in your previous post. Why don't you try to get along with people... have you ever heard of a concept called CRM??? Anyways, my advice is don't apply to JADE. With your attitude you would never pass the psyche and it would be a waste of your money. Happy landings though and keep the blue side up ya
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Jade Recruitment
" For The Record "
The Jade situation has been already discussed and dismissed, by many well qualified Pilots, in detail, last year, in the "South Asia and the Far East" forum, some threads are still viewable and some have been deleted.
Type Rated Captain Pay:
for a month of 0 flying = $ 5,500 USD
for a month of 50 hours = $ 8,000 USD, and almost no perdiem and housing
for a month of 80 hours = $ 9,500 USD
and then Subtract ---MINUS The Chinese IIT Expat Tax Law*.
The Law states, for the 80 hours, figure : 35% *
( 9,500 USD X 7.59 RMB = 72,105 RMB )
Accordingly Type Rated Captain Pay :
for a month of 80 flying hours = Appr. $ 6,175 USD After Tax
including the so-called allowances, which do not cover the actual expenses in Shenzhen.
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* CHINA - Expatriate Individual Income Tax Law
( Accurate & Verifiable with any Chinese Applicable Authority )
RMB 500 to RMB 20,000-----20%
RMB 20,001 - 40,000-------25%
RMB 40,001 - 60,000-------30%
RMB 60,001 - 80,000-------35% *
RMB 80,001 -100,000 ------40%
In excess of RMB 100,000---45%
There are some implicit or explicit benchmarks at local tax bureaus on what a reasonable salary is in certain industries and this could vary with your position, your education background and the country you come from. Local authorities have the power to increase your declared salary. Should this be manifestly low or inadequate to your position, they shall assume and obtain the proved confirmation that you are deliberately reducing the figure to escape from a higher IIT threshold. This can be enormously damaging for you and your employer who would be placed under far greater tax scrutiny in the future for potential tax evasion issues within the business.
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The Jade situation has been already discussed and dismissed, by many well qualified Pilots, in detail, last year, in the "South Asia and the Far East" forum, some threads are still viewable and some have been deleted.
Type Rated Captain Pay:
for a month of 0 flying = $ 5,500 USD
for a month of 50 hours = $ 8,000 USD, and almost no perdiem and housing
for a month of 80 hours = $ 9,500 USD
and then Subtract ---MINUS The Chinese IIT Expat Tax Law*.
The Law states, for the 80 hours, figure : 35% *
( 9,500 USD X 7.59 RMB = 72,105 RMB )
Accordingly Type Rated Captain Pay :
for a month of 80 flying hours = Appr. $ 6,175 USD After Tax
including the so-called allowances, which do not cover the actual expenses in Shenzhen.
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* CHINA - Expatriate Individual Income Tax Law
( Accurate & Verifiable with any Chinese Applicable Authority )
RMB 500 to RMB 20,000-----20%
RMB 20,001 - 40,000-------25%
RMB 40,001 - 60,000-------30%
RMB 60,001 - 80,000-------35% *
RMB 80,001 -100,000 ------40%
In excess of RMB 100,000---45%
There are some implicit or explicit benchmarks at local tax bureaus on what a reasonable salary is in certain industries and this could vary with your position, your education background and the country you come from. Local authorities have the power to increase your declared salary. Should this be manifestly low or inadequate to your position, they shall assume and obtain the proved confirmation that you are deliberately reducing the figure to escape from a higher IIT threshold. This can be enormously damaging for you and your employer who would be placed under far greater tax scrutiny in the future for potential tax evasion issues within the business.
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