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I was offered a senior F/O slot, (whatever that is). I suppose the pay is not bad if your living in china, you get nine days off a month. you must live within one hour of shenzen. if you layover for 4 days some where, one of those days will be counted as one of your nine days off. if you layover for 6 days, 2 days count as days off. You may have to do office work. you will have to provide your own intl. heath insurance, they give you 210 USD a month allowance for that. 210 won't get you squat. if your not typed, you pay for it, then they reimburse you 3 years later.
not my cup of tea unless i was desperate.
not my cup of tea unless i was desperate.
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Hey Willit,
I agree these are not very good conditions
. However, I would like to talk to them about a few things and see what they can offer me. Would you give me some advice for the interview pls ? thanks, much appreciated.
I agree these are not very good conditions
. However, I would like to talk to them about a few things and see what they can offer me. Would you give me some advice for the interview pls ? thanks, much appreciated.
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Sure why not, Jade Air Cargo........................about the same as the old slave trade I reckon, as you say all hush hush and very secret................Thats 'cos the contracts CRAP...................I went to shenzen some time ago as they paid 4 nights hotel for free. You do an English test, then some German Twats do a Psych test on you..............Told me I was fine but I did not seem to have the required enthusiasm to work for Jade. I told them if someone would tell me what the pay was maybe I could get enthusiastic !!! Did a sim check , all very straightforward and it seems you had to at least crash 3 times to fail!!!
eventually on day 3 this German dude turns up, spends 2 hours on his mobile then says "Ah, yes, terms and conditions, ve haf very good medical insurance you know!!"
then he pulls out a bit of paper and says, "Mine Gott, this is hard to decipher"
Llike sh#@ it was................."for Captains is $9500 US a month based on flying 80 hours"..........................OK. doesn't sound like the end of the world, so how does that work ?? "Ve pay you a base salary of $5,500 a month plus ve Guarentee to pay you for 50 hour at $50 an hour"
"MMmm, sound like $8,000 a month to me"
"Vell, yes but if you do 80 you will get $9,500"
"MMmmm, start up operator, lots of training, no chance , so $8000 a month it is then
what about per Diem ??
Ve pay you $3 an hour........................."From sign on to sign off??"
"No, no, from arrival at destination to leaving destination, I mean ve are paying you $50 an hour already".................."MMMmmm, maybe I'll take that job in MaccyD's"
and 9 days off ?? in a block ??............."No, some when you are away on a trip and max 3 days block when in shenzen.......................
"so, the medical Insurance ??"..........well, we have not finalised the contract yet, but when we do it will be very good".............."Ok, getting the idea, this is a pisstake , yes??"
"Vell if you are not type rated, we will train you, and deduct $1200 US a month for 3 years to repay the training"
Ok, well, lucky for me I am type rated, but these other poor buggers are going to work for , what ?? $6,800 a month, bargain, what about F/O's ???they pay you or what ??
OK TO SUM UP, THIS LOT IS A JOKE.............IF YOUR DESPERATE FOR A 744 RATING JOIN JADE GET THE TYPE, THEN QUIT ON PAYDAY, THEY CAN CHASE YOU ROUND BUT WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET ANY MONEY OFF YOU................................KOREAN PAYS $12,500 A MONTH FOR 744 guys, LOOKS LIKE JADE HAS SET UP A NICE TRAING SCHOOL FOR KOREAN..................
eventually on day 3 this German dude turns up, spends 2 hours on his mobile then says "Ah, yes, terms and conditions, ve haf very good medical insurance you know!!"
then he pulls out a bit of paper and says, "Mine Gott, this is hard to decipher"
Llike sh#@ it was................."for Captains is $9500 US a month based on flying 80 hours"..........................OK. doesn't sound like the end of the world, so how does that work ?? "Ve pay you a base salary of $5,500 a month plus ve Guarentee to pay you for 50 hour at $50 an hour"
"MMmm, sound like $8,000 a month to me"
"Vell, yes but if you do 80 you will get $9,500"
"MMmmm, start up operator, lots of training, no chance , so $8000 a month it is then
what about per Diem ??
Ve pay you $3 an hour........................."From sign on to sign off??"
"No, no, from arrival at destination to leaving destination, I mean ve are paying you $50 an hour already".................."MMMmmm, maybe I'll take that job in MaccyD's"
and 9 days off ?? in a block ??............."No, some when you are away on a trip and max 3 days block when in shenzen.......................
"so, the medical Insurance ??"..........well, we have not finalised the contract yet, but when we do it will be very good".............."Ok, getting the idea, this is a pisstake , yes??"
"Vell if you are not type rated, we will train you, and deduct $1200 US a month for 3 years to repay the training"
Ok, well, lucky for me I am type rated, but these other poor buggers are going to work for , what ?? $6,800 a month, bargain, what about F/O's ???they pay you or what ??
OK TO SUM UP, THIS LOT IS A JOKE.............IF YOUR DESPERATE FOR A 744 RATING JOIN JADE GET THE TYPE, THEN QUIT ON PAYDAY, THEY CAN CHASE YOU ROUND BUT WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET ANY MONEY OFF YOU................................KOREAN PAYS $12,500 A MONTH FOR 744 guys, LOOKS LIKE JADE HAS SET UP A NICE TRAING SCHOOL FOR KOREAN..................
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Well good for him! Does not say much for Jade. On another note I just saw a Yangtze River Express 747-400F in Hong Kong. I have seen their 73`s Shanghai but the 400 was a surprise (to me anyway!)
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YZR plan operate 4 times a week pvg to lux - if you look up the registration of the b747 400f a/c operating dont be suprised if it is a CI B registration.
(ci are a major shareholder).
(ci are a major shareholder).
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Sounds like a real class act, this airline and it has not changed since thye first started!
And........they continue to advertise on quite a few websites for pilots. Notwithstanding their conservative expansion, this is a clear sign that not all is well and this company is shooting itself in the foot by being penny-pinching to the nth degree.
ANY decent airline would put in place a decent package to get quality personnel and KEEP them. As for $1200 a month for non-type rated guys, That works out at quite a chunk of change since a 744 rating costs approx 12-13K depending where you go and nowhere near what 3 years deductions would accumulate.
That's why I would never touch this company with a barge pole. Maybe in a few months we shall see "new and improved Ts & Cs" which alwasy tells me that their initial campaign had no takers and they were "forced" to raise the pay and bennies. They could have saved a lot of bother by doint that in the first place!
Nice observation: a training school for KAL
!!!
And........they continue to advertise on quite a few websites for pilots. Notwithstanding their conservative expansion, this is a clear sign that not all is well and this company is shooting itself in the foot by being penny-pinching to the nth degree.
ANY decent airline would put in place a decent package to get quality personnel and KEEP them. As for $1200 a month for non-type rated guys, That works out at quite a chunk of change since a 744 rating costs approx 12-13K depending where you go and nowhere near what 3 years deductions would accumulate.
That's why I would never touch this company with a barge pole. Maybe in a few months we shall see "new and improved Ts & Cs" which alwasy tells me that their initial campaign had no takers and they were "forced" to raise the pay and bennies. They could have saved a lot of bother by doint that in the first place!
Nice observation: a training school for KAL
!!!
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ZEE German chief pilot in Question. failed Emirates interviews a few years back as an FO. Flys for royal jet pisses off to jade cargo leaves after 6 months gets a Direct entry captain job at Emirates. Go figure 
Jade...
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Idiots
All these guys are upset that they failed the interview. Jade may not be the best but they are pretty good. If any of these guys were in a better airline, they wouldn't be posting here right? FYI, all of us at Jade are getting the hours
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Jade Contract
The contract at Jade is rough but the conditions are not. I commute to BKK all the time, make better money then CAL (for 0 hr month) and have a blast in China. Get real guys
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Glad you like it Devil Any!
Perhaps you can shed some light on the Terms and Conditions at Jade since nobody dares going public?
Enlighten us! How much do you make approximately in US$? Days off? Leave? Staff travel? Flying hours/month?
Much appreciated!
Perhaps you can shed some light on the Terms and Conditions at Jade since nobody dares going public?
Enlighten us! How much do you make approximately in US$? Days off? Leave? Staff travel? Flying hours/month?
Much appreciated!
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Since yes it is a start up, there are a few bugs being worked out. As an FO I'm making roughly $6000 without ever touching the plane. 50-80 hours gives another $1000 and 80-100 is almost $2000. The secret to this that everyone is missing is that the dollar is set to fall against the RNB (which we are paid in). If and when it does, that makes for a huge pay increase if you are working in dollars. For non-rated guys they do deduct 1200 a month since they are not allowed to bond employees but you get it back as a loyalty bonus after 3 years. You'll have lots of time off when you first start due to the time it takes to get all required licenses from China. The company atmosphere is nice, they almost seem afraid to tell you to do anything. Since we are short of guys the rostering and time off is slightly screwy and if you want to commute you may have to wait a while until things settle down unless it's a short comm like I do to Bangkok. What else? Shenzen is great if you're a single guy, tons of women. oh ya, the interview. This is the hardest part of the whole deal. They have a German company that has two guys doing the psyche. They have you have a group discussion on CRM- no sweat. Then you do one of those deals where you are stranded on the moon and have to list in order the items and their importance. Next is cards with information on them that you can't show anyone but you can discuss and you have to figure out when some outer space pyramid was built (I know right?). Finally you have to build some tinker-toy in a structured environment. This is what kills alot of people and now they have made it that you have to pass the psyche to get to the sim since the failure rate is so high. My advice is just be really NORMAL and try to have fun with it. People who are too quiet or too outspoken will fail. Sim was pretty rough and lots of fails there too. Vis approach, engine fires etc. Much harder than the one at CAL if anyone's familiar with that one. Medical check isn't that bad. Hope this answers some questions
