Atlantic Airlines - the curse of the ATP
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From: Bishkek (nr Luton)
Atlantic Airlines - the curse of the ATP
I see, according to the CAA OF2, that Atlantic Airlines are suffering the curse of the ATP and are having to bring in 5 Turkish F27's for a year to cover late deliveries of the cargo ATP.
The ATP's continue to wreck airlines, wherever they go - Emerald, Magic Blue being only the recent ones.
The ATP's continue to wreck airlines, wherever they go - Emerald, Magic Blue being only the recent ones.
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From: The Smoke
I would presume they have picked up some of the Emerald contracts and need aircraft to cover the routes. Their website states they have a requirement for five ATP aircraft in 2006. They already have three on strength?
There are no operators in the UK to object: Emerald, Channel, Titan, etc. no longer operator types of similar capacity. However if it means keeping the routes operating until suitable G-reg aircraft and crews become available, cant see a problem? Keeps all the ground staff employed until a solution is in place.
There are no operators in the UK to object: Emerald, Channel, Titan, etc. no longer operator types of similar capacity. However if it means keeping the routes operating until suitable G-reg aircraft and crews become available, cant see a problem? Keeps all the ground staff employed until a solution is in place.
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From: Fratton End
These are probably the old Channex F27s!
Perhaps Wiggy and the boys from fraggle rock could contract for them again, if their Turkish validations are still current? It's about time Wiggy got some new hair extensions
Perhaps Wiggy and the boys from fraggle rock could contract for them again, if their Turkish validations are still current? It's about time Wiggy got some new hair extensions
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From: Middle Earth
How many ATP's do Atlantic hope to operate? I know they currently have two & a third under conversion.
Did any of Emeralds ever get converted to freighters (I know they had the two pax models & were intending to have a trio of freighters too). Surely, if these did get converted, it would be ideal to purchase these out of store at Blackpool from who ever owns them now?
FC
Did any of Emeralds ever get converted to freighters (I know they had the two pax models & were intending to have a trio of freighters too). Surely, if these did get converted, it would be ideal to purchase these out of store at Blackpool from who ever owns them now?
FC
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From: Bishkek (nr Luton)
Ex Emerald Aircraft
Emerald had 1 freighter in service, which was converted from a passenger aircraft, without large freight door.
There were 2 aircraft (the ex Biman aircraft) which had been fitted with large doors. One was flown to BLK for the completion of the cargo conversion but was then robbed to pieces to support the other aircraft. The other aircraft IFAIK is still in Bucharest.
The Biman aircraft needed lots of work on them anyway (TCAS, EGPWS, major check etc) so would need LOADS of money spending on them.
There were 2 aircraft (the ex Biman aircraft) which had been fitted with large doors. One was flown to BLK for the completion of the cargo conversion but was then robbed to pieces to support the other aircraft. The other aircraft IFAIK is still in Bucharest.
The Biman aircraft needed lots of work on them anyway (TCAS, EGPWS, major check etc) so would need LOADS of money spending on them.
like Atlantic Air Transport - cheaper to operate and look after. Plus it comes in two sizes with a cargo door as standard.
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From: Midlands
read your share price index and shutup
Quote: FougaMagister, "They should have bought ATRs like Atlantic Air Transport - cheaper to operate and look after. Plus it comes in two sizes with a cargo door as standard."
i) You can own A380s for all the good its worth having no business and if they dont fly, you dont get paid and a french mortgage (in this case) is bigger than a british one.
ii) A *demand* worth 5 F27s. Amen. Thats money in the bank for Airlines.
Ps. Welcome back Tango Oscar.
i) You can own A380s for all the good its worth having no business and if they dont fly, you dont get paid and a french mortgage (in this case) is bigger than a british one.
ii) A *demand* worth 5 F27s. Amen. Thats money in the bank for Airlines.
Ps. Welcome back Tango Oscar.
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My comment re. ATRs vs. ATPs was tongue in cheek - if you check my profile you'll see why.
However, I stand by my comment; ATRs might mean a higher capital investment (and we all know that most airlines are under-capitalised), but they get their money back over time with lower running costs (and less downtime) compared to the ATP. In other words, you get what you pay for.
Cheers
P.S.: share price index? I didn't know that Atlantic Airlines was publicly listed...
However, I stand by my comment; ATRs might mean a higher capital investment (and we all know that most airlines are under-capitalised), but they get their money back over time with lower running costs (and less downtime) compared to the ATP. In other words, you get what you pay for.
Cheers
P.S.: share price index? I didn't know that Atlantic Airlines was publicly listed...
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