Cargolux details requested!
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Thanks for the info.
i'm a little confused about the 10.55% on the "tax-free" night, Sunday and holiday supplements.
do singles pay tax on the "tax-free" supplements and then end up with those 10,55% total tax while families get the "tax-free" as tax-free and end up with then 7% total tax???
i'm a little confused about the 10.55% on the "tax-free" night, Sunday and holiday supplements.
do singles pay tax on the "tax-free" supplements and then end up with those 10,55% total tax while families get the "tax-free" as tax-free and end up with then 7% total tax???
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FCS, I just rephrased the sentence to make it somewhat understandable.
There was a self-sponsor program in place once, but doesn't exist anymore after strong opposition generated by the pilots.
BTW over time some parts of the initial posts of this thread became outdated. Profit sharing is theoretically still in place; practically it disappeared.
So no more 2 months extra pay in June for now and the foreseeable future.
Did anyone say 10% pay decrease?
There was a self-sponsor program in place once, but doesn't exist anymore after strong opposition generated by the pilots.
BTW over time some parts of the initial posts of this thread became outdated. Profit sharing is theoretically still in place; practically it disappeared.
So no more 2 months extra pay in June for now and the foreseeable future.
Did anyone say 10% pay decrease?
Last edited by ray cosmic; 1st October 2007 at 12:21.
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hi ray, thanks for putting up with our questions!
so for a 2nd year pre-experienced bachelor i pieced together the following:
13 months*4,2k€=54,6 brut x 0,76 (=24%tax)= 41,5k net
+
180 per diems x 100€ *0,9 (the 10,55% social)= 16,2K
+
Night & Sunday 10,5 months (rest=vacation)*500*0,9 (social)= 4,725
grand total per year == 62,4 net :12= 5,2 per month
so for a 2nd year pre-experienced bachelor i pieced together the following:
13 months*4,2k€=54,6 brut x 0,76 (=24%tax)= 41,5k net
+
180 per diems x 100€ *0,9 (the 10,55% social)= 16,2K
+
Night & Sunday 10,5 months (rest=vacation)*500*0,9 (social)= 4,725
grand total per year == 62,4 net :12= 5,2 per month
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hi ray, thanks for putting up with our questions!
so for a 2nd year pre-experienced bachelor i pieced together the following:
13 months*4,2k€=54,6 brut x 0,76 (=24%tax)= 41,5k net
+
180 per diems x 100€ *0,9 (the 10,55% social)= 16,2K
+
Night & Sunday 10,5 months (rest=vacation)*500*0,9 (social)= 4,725
grand total per year == 62,4 net :12= 5,2 per month
Ehm, no.
More like:
13 months*(4200€ - 915,70€ tax - 443,1 social sec etc.)= 36935,60
+
180 per diems x 100€ (free of everything) = 18,0K
+
Night & Sunday 10,5 months (rest=vacation)*500*0,8945 social sec etc.= 4696,125
grand total per year == 59631,725 net : 12= 4969,31 per month
tax calculator on: https://saturn.etat.lu/cobar/bareme/CalculPP
Classe d'impôt means: 1/0 for bachelors, 2/0 married, 2/1 married - one child, 2/2 married - two children.
But again, over 600hrs and 3500tt you'll have a basic of around 5000. In turn, since your basic salary increases, your "special" hours will give you more as well.
EDIT: CHECK OUT PAGE 14 FOR A MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN!!
so for a 2nd year pre-experienced bachelor i pieced together the following:
13 months*4,2k€=54,6 brut x 0,76 (=24%tax)= 41,5k net
+
180 per diems x 100€ *0,9 (the 10,55% social)= 16,2K
+
Night & Sunday 10,5 months (rest=vacation)*500*0,9 (social)= 4,725
grand total per year == 62,4 net :12= 5,2 per month
Ehm, no.
More like:
13 months*(4200€ - 915,70€ tax - 443,1 social sec etc.)= 36935,60
+
180 per diems x 100€ (free of everything) = 18,0K
+
Night & Sunday 10,5 months (rest=vacation)*500*0,8945 social sec etc.= 4696,125
grand total per year == 59631,725 net : 12= 4969,31 per month
tax calculator on: https://saturn.etat.lu/cobar/bareme/CalculPP
Classe d'impôt means: 1/0 for bachelors, 2/0 married, 2/1 married - one child, 2/2 married - two children.
But again, over 600hrs and 3500tt you'll have a basic of around 5000. In turn, since your basic salary increases, your "special" hours will give you more as well.
EDIT: CHECK OUT PAGE 14 FOR A MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN!!
Last edited by ray cosmic; 12th October 2007 at 20:06.
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Successful Application
Hi there!
What I am really much more interested in other than the salary scemes is a successful application process.
So therefore I´d be very thankful for some "insider" informations concerning this subject. Also in regard of the tests in Sarlouis.
What can I do in advance, how are the generel chances?
(FO B-737-800, 1800 on type, total 2500, FI(A), former HT, 27years old, german)
Thanks so far!
What I am really much more interested in other than the salary scemes is a successful application process.
So therefore I´d be very thankful for some "insider" informations concerning this subject. Also in regard of the tests in Sarlouis.
What can I do in advance, how are the generel chances?
(FO B-737-800, 1800 on type, total 2500, FI(A), former HT, 27years old, german)
Thanks so far!
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From: uk
Anybody been through the process recently?
I have +3500hrs on 737&A320 Right seat, 29 years old and live in EU. I have an application with Interpersonal for about 15 months now which i update regularly but have not heard didly-squat?
Thanks to all the guys who have taken the time to contribute to this thread
LFL
I have +3500hrs on 737&A320 Right seat, 29 years old and live in EU. I have an application with Interpersonal for about 15 months now which i update regularly but have not heard didly-squat?
Thanks to all the guys who have taken the time to contribute to this thread
LFL
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Oh, I´ve read about the screening, the tests etc. but I still haven´t found out how to prepare for an agency that doesn´t acknowledge updates, answer e-mails or keep applicants updated in any aspect of their application... 
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Not your fault RC , and your help so far is much appreciated!
Anyone with "Interpersonal experience" willing to share? Anything specific needed to be known about the process or their screening?
Experience so far is that one arm doesn´t know what the other arm does.
Somewhat confusing, when an airline that potentially could be one of the very best places to work in Europe is represented?
Anyone with "Interpersonal experience" willing to share? Anything specific needed to be known about the process or their screening?
Experience so far is that one arm doesn´t know what the other arm does.
Somewhat confusing, when an airline that potentially could be one of the very best places to work in Europe is represented?
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For anyone who cares:
Just been announced this week that in LUX income taxes will be lowered by 6% and childsupport will be raised by 900 EUR per child. Meaning that having 2 kids will get you around 600 EUR per month total, independent of income..
Just been announced this week that in LUX income taxes will be lowered by 6% and childsupport will be raised by 900 EUR per child. Meaning that having 2 kids will get you around 600 EUR per month total, independent of income..
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From: Germany
Per Diem
Just to enlighten the discrepancy between actual and theoretical Per Diem:
it's paid per hour, so every time you start off on a trip later in the day, or return in the morning, you don't get 96 EUR, but only 20, 30, 40 or so. With around 30 trips/year, that's 60x less Per Diem, so roughly 4000 EUR less per year than the theoretical figure of 180x96 EUR.
Fly only long trips, you get a little more, but then again you'll spend more too.
Cheers,
TRNRD
it's paid per hour, so every time you start off on a trip later in the day, or return in the morning, you don't get 96 EUR, but only 20, 30, 40 or so. With around 30 trips/year, that's 60x less Per Diem, so roughly 4000 EUR less per year than the theoretical figure of 180x96 EUR.
Fly only long trips, you get a little more, but then again you'll spend more too.
Cheers,
TRNRD
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From: uk
Thanx TRNRD for clearing that up.
Going back to an earlier query raised by some of us.
Any Single , F/Os out there,living in LUX ,with no kids ,willing to give us an idea of what tax rate they pay? What social insurance rate (10%?)?
Basically what net sum did you take home assuming...
basic 3900
+ Per diem 850 ish
- Tax &Ins ????
Is there any tax relief available if your paying rent or a mortgage?
Is the tax situation very different across the borders?
Thanks
L4L
Going back to an earlier query raised by some of us.
Any Single , F/Os out there,living in LUX ,with no kids ,willing to give us an idea of what tax rate they pay? What social insurance rate (10%?)?
Basically what net sum did you take home assuming...
basic 3900
+ Per diem 850 ish
- Tax &Ins ????
Is there any tax relief available if your paying rent or a mortgage?
Is the tax situation very different across the borders?
Thanks
L4L
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From: Greece
Taxreform
Hi raycosmic and others.
For those speaking french, the taxoffice has a webpage under
www.impotsdirects.public.lu
However the way I see it, the taxtable has been adjusted for inflation, resulting in lower taxes.
Couples with or without kids, will be in the same tax-category from now on.
For every child you will get a taxbonus.
This is to make the system fair, for those who have kids, and paid little or no tax. If you pay no tax because of a low income, you cannot benefit from a taxreduction for kids. So with the new system everybody will get a bonus per kid, regardless of income. If you pay no tax, the taxman will pay you money per kid.
However guys the numbers are more like annual figures, and not monthly as has been mentioned above.
Annual tax reduction per kid used to be 900€ and is now 922€.
The tax-table has also been reduced by 6%.
In my case the gain will be around 900€ annually.
A welcome break, especially if someone looks at what other countries are doing with their tax-rates.
Regards.
For those speaking french, the taxoffice has a webpage under
www.impotsdirects.public.lu
However the way I see it, the taxtable has been adjusted for inflation, resulting in lower taxes.
Couples with or without kids, will be in the same tax-category from now on.
For every child you will get a taxbonus.
This is to make the system fair, for those who have kids, and paid little or no tax. If you pay no tax because of a low income, you cannot benefit from a taxreduction for kids. So with the new system everybody will get a bonus per kid, regardless of income. If you pay no tax, the taxman will pay you money per kid.
However guys the numbers are more like annual figures, and not monthly as has been mentioned above.
Annual tax reduction per kid used to be 900€ and is now 922€.
The tax-table has also been reduced by 6%.
In my case the gain will be around 900€ annually.
A welcome break, especially if someone looks at what other countries are doing with their tax-rates.
Regards.