Cargolux / Evergreen and B747-400LCF
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You have a source for this?
I was in New York about 10 days ago, spoke with the old chief pilot from Evergreen.
His out of the loop opinion was that Cargolux was gonna get the whole deal.
Personally, I'm not sure given the current political climate in the US that Boeing would give this contract without some US carrier involvement.
But Evergreen? I like EIA, used to work there and all, but they have zero -400 experience.
More good on them if they get it.
I was in New York about 10 days ago, spoke with the old chief pilot from Evergreen.
His out of the loop opinion was that Cargolux was gonna get the whole deal.
Personally, I'm not sure given the current political climate in the US that Boeing would give this contract without some US carrier involvement.
But Evergreen? I like EIA, used to work there and all, but they have zero -400 experience.
More good on them if they get it.
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No official announcement as yet. Scuttlebutt is EIA will get 75% of the flying & Cargolux 25%. Both companies want more. -400 bids are out at EIA and classes to start 2006. Other 400's are in the works, or so we are told. 3 more classics coming also. The Old chief pilot is way out of the loop.
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I've also heard over the last months that CLX would be getting the deal. One of my mates has been offered a left seat on it. However, no new info on splitting the flying though.
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Heard problem is the domestic flying the the States. Therefore split deal. Initially CLX was aiming to get it all.
Don't know about split %.
CR2, do you mean specific individuals will be assigned only or will the whole pilot group do the flying?
Have a good ol' day,
744.
Don't know about split %.
CR2, do you mean specific individuals will be assigned only or will the whole pilot group do the flying?
Have a good ol' day,
744.
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CR2 are you saying that an invidual at cv has been offered a seat on a yet to be confirmed contract. I personally think somebody is blowing a lot of hot air here. Apart from all else, I'm pretty sure that it would be offered to all (pilots) before being assigned to anybody.
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luxfreight, that is exactly what I was told, by the person who was offered it. A very good friend who is not in the habit of telling porkies.
Whether the promise by the high up person who offered it can be fulfilled is of course a different kettle of fish.
Whether the promise by the high up person who offered it can be fulfilled is of course a different kettle of fish.
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I bet your mate has got seniority No360. I simply don't believe it.There would be hell to play if it where only offered to one indivdual. From what I have heard though, it would mean a basing in Japan and we know what happened the last time the management tried basing people away from good old Lux - all that aside, we as the pilot comunity (I feel)are quite excited about this project. Bring it on!!!
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reg will remain N..this may provide some point of discussion on the issue
the concept tho is exciting but converting a 20 year old a/c to fly for another 8 plus years .. ground handling of this bird with all its equipment will be interesting..loading wings in strong winds at nagoya :-)
the concept tho is exciting but converting a 20 year old a/c to fly for another 8 plus years .. ground handling of this bird with all its equipment will be interesting..loading wings in strong winds at nagoya :-)
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Funny that acmi, I was talking to someone today about this.
N-reg/owned by Boeing is the sticky bit for us, as not many of our peeps have FAA licences.
EV would fly Japan-SEA, CV would fly Italy-SEA. EV want CV's help to train crews on the -400.
All up in the air again.
PS: 4 a/c to be converted.
N-reg/owned by Boeing is the sticky bit for us, as not many of our peeps have FAA licences.
EV would fly Japan-SEA, CV would fly Italy-SEA. EV want CV's help to train crews on the -400.
All up in the air again.
PS: 4 a/c to be converted.
...You'd queue for it Matatu???
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Evergreen International Airlines, Inc. to Operate Boeing 747 Large Cargo Freighters
SEATTLE, Dec. 15, 2005 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] announced today that it has selected Evergreen International Airlines, Inc. to operate the 747 Large Cargo Freighter (LCF) fleet, comprising specially modified 747-400 jets that will transport major assemblies for the all-new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
Evergreen International Airlines, Inc. (EIA) is a subsidiary of Evergreen International Aviation, Inc. and has performed passenger and cargo services around the globe for more than 30 years. EIA has overall responsibility for the operation of the LCF fleet. It will fly routes to and from the U.S. and Japan.
Evergreen has named Cargolux as a subcontractor to fly routes from Europe. Cargolux currently operates a fleet of 14 747-400 freighters. Sojitz Corp. of America has been chosen by Evergreen to coordinate logistics and other services for Japanese routes. Sojitz will establish an overall plan for receiving and transporting 787 components from Boeing's Japanese partners, and will be the interface between Centrair and Nagoya airports.
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http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...51214a_nr.html
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http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...51214a_pr.html
SEATTLE, Dec. 15, 2005 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] announced today that it has selected Evergreen International Airlines, Inc. to operate the 747 Large Cargo Freighter (LCF) fleet, comprising specially modified 747-400 jets that will transport major assemblies for the all-new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
Evergreen International Airlines, Inc. (EIA) is a subsidiary of Evergreen International Aviation, Inc. and has performed passenger and cargo services around the globe for more than 30 years. EIA has overall responsibility for the operation of the LCF fleet. It will fly routes to and from the U.S. and Japan.
Evergreen has named Cargolux as a subcontractor to fly routes from Europe. Cargolux currently operates a fleet of 14 747-400 freighters. Sojitz Corp. of America has been chosen by Evergreen to coordinate logistics and other services for Japanese routes. Sojitz will establish an overall plan for receiving and transporting 787 components from Boeing's Japanese partners, and will be the interface between Centrair and Nagoya airports.
Story:
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...51214a_nr.html
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http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...51214a_pr.html
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I'm always amazed at how little those "in the know" actually do know. Also amazed in the confidence level of those who actually thought CLX had a chance of receiving this contract.