UK Flight Engineer Ticket Question

[connection fee]

Can someone please confirm that unless one is an experienced F/E that you have to sit the 14 ATPL exams first. I am wondering if there is any ‘backdoor’ way. Just confirming that an ICAO/FAA ATPL or FE rating or can open any dispo’s???? I am not expecting anything to positive but it’s worth a shot !!!

This is the link to requirments if anybody is interested.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/SECTION%20K.pdf

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[Engineer]

Got it wrong the link you have posted is for a JAR Flight Engineer licence i.a.w JAR FCL 4.

The UKCAA FE licence is still based on national requirements and available from the CAA.

Not sure why you would want a FE ticket at this late stage in flying. To my knowledge with the demise of My Travel DC10 there is no FE jobs in UK apart from military aircraft and believe that is an exclusive club

Exams to be passed are listed here which is part of the application form

[ClearReverse]

Engineer is right, no UK FE jobs available anymore. If you really want to do the licence you will have to look hard to find somewhere to study the subjects for the CAA version, the hardest info to find is the FE General paper. If you need anymore info pm me.




CR

[Engineer]

or an old copy of CAP 50

However if you hold an FAA ATPL there will be exemptions granted but if memory serves me right you will need at least 3000hrs to be even considered for an exemption from the practical part.

[Engineer]

Apology for stating that there are no FE jobs in UK overlooked Air Atlanta Europe and EAAC who operate G registered aircraft.

For full listing look here

Once again sorry for misinformation

[scroggs]

As the majority of the remaining UK flight engineers are in the freight business, I'll move your post to that forum in the hope that you'll get more info.

Scroggs

[Alex Whittingham]

The UK haven't signed up to JAR FCL 4 so you'll get a UK FE licence not a JAR one. Because of a rush of FEs employed by MK Airlines converting their SA and other licences the CAA have recently, and belatedly, rationalised the rules and chucked out the old CAP 50. They now require you to sit five of the JAA ATPL exams and do a flight test. They haven't published this yet but we were formally notified in a CGIs meeting a couple of months ago.

This is a webpage I prepared for MK's FEs, you might be able to glean something off it. Contact the CAA on [email protected] for confirmation that it also applies to you.

[Engineer]

Alex Whittingham the preamble that is posted on the MK website must apply to a licence conversion such as would be given to a military person or foreign licence holder hence the 3000 hour requirement. Is that correct?

But what are the rules regarding an ab initio person? FCL4 at the CAA dealt with these types of issues years back believe it was a person called Monks!

Also noted that Form SRG\1141 is no longer required is that correct?

[Alex Whittingham]

The MK site only mentions conversion because that's what they all need. The page I linked you to was for FEs with less than 3000hrs. If you have more than 3000hrs you only need to do two exams. The full conversion info for the MK pilots and FEs, including the validation requirement is here.

The CAA said two months ago that the new rules for FEs under 3000hrs also applied to ab-initios. You really need to talk to them, though, to be certain the sands haven't shifted again.

I'm not getting clear advice about which forms to use, I dare say it will be sorted soon.