Brasilias from Omega
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Brasilias from Omega
Hi,
Any Brasilia´s pilot from Omega could tell me what is the maximun pay load that serial numbers 12 & 13 can carry?
Thank you very much
Any Brasilia´s pilot from Omega could tell me what is the maximun pay load that serial numbers 12 & 13 can carry?
Thank you very much
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Thanks Pipo, the cargo Brasilias are certificated for Embraer to carry 3500 Kg. Swiftair has bought two Brasilias to Omega:
reg D-CAOB (serial number 120-012)
reg D-CAOA (serial number 120-013)
They are telling that planes have a modification made by Omega in USA. This modification permits carry 4000 Kg, and the pilots don´t beleave it.
We are looking for someone that can confirm that point.
P.D. Swiftair is increasing its Brasilias Museum. They have already the serial numbers 7, 8 & 9. N
reg D-CAOB (serial number 120-012)
reg D-CAOA (serial number 120-013)
They are telling that planes have a modification made by Omega in USA. This modification permits carry 4000 Kg, and the pilots don´t beleave it.
We are looking for someone that can confirm that point.
P.D. Swiftair is increasing its Brasilias Museum. They have already the serial numbers 7, 8 & 9. N
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3500kg it is.
For me 3200kg was sort of a limit (alarm bell) since we did not had a refeuling probe installed.
If you remove the wooden floor, the netting, spare oil and tires, tow bar, cable restraints, fire extinquishers, portable oxygen bottles,life vests, and the very handy APU you will get to 4000kg.
We operated with the German LBA approved mass and balance specifications and I absolutely cannot recall this number of 4000 kg.
Maybe Swiftair should talk direct to the lessor Boeing Capital.
I am shure the maintenance company Cirrus will also have some answers.
It would be more appropiate to contact these companies.
Sincerely G.J.S. Groenendijk
For me 3200kg was sort of a limit (alarm bell) since we did not had a refeuling probe installed.
If you remove the wooden floor, the netting, spare oil and tires, tow bar, cable restraints, fire extinquishers, portable oxygen bottles,life vests, and the very handy APU you will get to 4000kg.
We operated with the German LBA approved mass and balance specifications and I absolutely cannot recall this number of 4000 kg.
Maybe Swiftair should talk direct to the lessor Boeing Capital.
I am shure the maintenance company Cirrus will also have some answers.
It would be more appropiate to contact these companies.
Sincerely G.J.S. Groenendijk
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The 4000kg were primary used for making some advertising at the beginning of Air Omega. The airline went away from that recognizing, that 4000kg is a load which can't be transported as long as there is some rest of economical thinking. People doing that didn't like the idea making wrong promises.
Both ex-Omega aeroplanes were former pax aircraft modified for cargo transport by an American STC holder. There is nothing special in that. Finally, it is just some kind of change in the cabin lay out developed, when Embraer couldn't offer a cargo version.
Guess when the authority checks your EMB-120 flight plan taking off with 4000 kg, you might have some trouble because the distance you can fly with that is almost walkable.... ;-)
Both ex-Omega aeroplanes were former pax aircraft modified for cargo transport by an American STC holder. There is nothing special in that. Finally, it is just some kind of change in the cabin lay out developed, when Embraer couldn't offer a cargo version.
Guess when the authority checks your EMB-120 flight plan taking off with 4000 kg, you might have some trouble because the distance you can fly with that is almost walkable.... ;-)
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And whoever is in doubt what happend to Air Omega aircraft: Here is at least one of them. Painting is still the same, just REG changed.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...DEz&static=yes
I'm sorry, quite a long link. But I guess it works.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...DEz&static=yes
I'm sorry, quite a long link. But I guess it works.
