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6feetunder 6th September 2002 21:21

For once you are right, an unqualified opinion indeed. Try talking to the gents on the Committee, they will explain why the ban is there and what it is accomplishing. It will never stop the flow, just ask the Irish guys, they support it 110%.

shortly 7th September 2002 01:12

Well, people can delude themselves by thinking the ban is working all they like, they can pontificate on the accomplishments of the ban but all of that is disputed by:
1. All courses, initial entry and upgrade are full of excellent experienced aircrew for as far ahead as is sensible to look.
2. Waiting lists for all initial interviews - all around the world.
3. The new joiners will not be accepted into the AOA weakening it further financially and physically.
4. Those joining under the ban will be so grateful to CX that they will absolutely resist any attempt at increased industrial action.
5. Those not joining under the ban are the ones with the 'union' naus that the AOA should want to see joining CX.

The ban is not hurting CX in any real way. It is actually a good filter for the recruiters as it stops some union activists from applying and all union activists from taking up a job offer.

In my opinion the ban, because it was flawed in application from Day 1, was always just another example of poor decision making by the AOA. Yes I know support of ALPA, IFALPA, CAPA, Teamsters Union, Methodist Ladies Breakfast Club, Uncle Tom Cobbly and all. Impressive support at first glance but not after consideration. With the exception of the Ladies none of the support organisations would worry CX one iota.

FlexibleResponse 7th September 2002 10:55

Pardon, Your Slip is Showing
 

4. Those joining under the ban will be so grateful to CX that they will absolutely resist any attempt at increased industrial action.
Hmm..., a cunning little plan for a "Union Bust", perhaps?

Wizofoz 7th September 2002 11:47

Flex,

If it is, you guys are playing right into their hands!!!

Eric Zoolander 8th September 2002 01:27

Munchkin:

Hey Talk about Rehtoric….Jeeze! Let’s get all preachy and stuff.

Ya… I bet Management types really watch movies like Zoolander ….
“You is talking loco… and I like it.”

Ya and I talk like a Brit or Aussie … Gimmie a break Einstein.

Ok you guys got all the answers and every one else is FUBAR.

I’ll say it again - ya’ll know the Ban tactic is flawed, because it is failing to achieve the desired outcome, but that is all you got – you talk the talk but you can’t walk the walk "Strike" – and when you got nothing left in your rhetorical arsenal - you resort to the management label in an attempt to undermine credibility.

She’s a witch burn her… she’s a witch!. …Wait! Now, how do we know she is a witch? .... well?… Witch’s are made of wood…and?... wood floats…and? If she floats she is a witch…. Riggghhht! She floats!!! Burn her!!! She is a witch!!!(M. Python School of Reason) LOL.

This is a real pity because you are just dividing the pilot group by blaming the not yet hired for your trouble and you can’t see that.

Some how ya’ll are morally just in working to feed your family, but the the rest of us are morally corrupt in attempting to do the same.

I think your anger is a bit misdirected and should be focused on more creative solutions – look to your selves to solve your issues with management and stop attempting to penalize or vilify the unemployed, because 230+ are coming regardless of the rehtoric ... what is that... about 25-30% of the members that voted in the last AOA election. Ya might want those kinda numbers on your side.

Pz and Shortly got it right - management or pilot.

My last Post on this Issue -

Be sure to check out "Derek's" web site:

http://www.zoolander.com/flash_site/index.html

... and click on all the links....LOL.


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