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Shep69 17th September 2017 14:18

LOL--good wind up.

Ya forgot to put a requirement for law degree with particular emphasis on contractural law, nations of basing laws, and laws of nations/provinces/states of operations and origins of all individuals working for the company.

Can be a real minefield if one doesn't know what one is doing.

Or I guess ya could just fix what is broken and get someone who smiles a lot and makes people happy. Naw, too easy.

BusyB 18th September 2017 07:36

Hitler finds out Ryanair is cancelling flights - Caption Generator

FUANNA 19th September 2017 11:55

Hi Anna,

Just a brief update here from our side. As a courtesy so to say:

Your pilots are closing ranks, and getting organised. In an unprecedented manner ( including trainers).

Your FOP is going to implode, should you proceed with your attack on our livelihoods.

Remember? FOP is the department you are supposed to manage, and not destroy.

NO FOP = NO AIRLINE.

Just google ' Ryanair pilots leaving for Norwegian ', ... well, you'll get the picture, Anna.

There are currently plenty of options out there (one is just across the street) for all of our pilots, of all experience levels.

As an 'amuse bouche', your trainers will start to shut this circus before Xmas.

Think again, Anna.

Krone 19th September 2017 12:12

There are currently plenty of options out there (one is just across the street)

Err , I hope you don't advocate leaving CX & starting at KA?!
However , it Would be a quicker command and ultimately higher financial rewards over a 20 year career.

Oh , I think you mean HKA, well no chance unless its a SO or JFO. C'mon, CX is a defacto legacy carrier. HKA defacto cheapo ;)

cpahka 19th September 2017 12:24

looking at HX crew ad at facebook [ https://www.facebook.com/HKAFOP/ ]. quicker command in 2 years time !

goathead 19th September 2017 12:36


Originally Posted by FUANNA (Post 9896756)
Hi Anna,

Just a brief update here from our side. As a courtesy so to say:

Your pilots are closing ranks, and getting organised. In an unprecedented manner ( including trainers).

Your FOP is going to implode, should you proceed with your attack on our livelihoods.

Remember? FOP is the department you are supposed to manage, and not destroy.

NO FOP = NO AIRLINE.

Just google ' Ryanair pilots leaving for Norwegian ', ... well, you'll get the picture, Anna.

There are currently plenty of options out there (one is just across the street) for all of our pilots, of all experience levels.

As an 'amuse bouche', your trainers will start to shut this circus before Xmas.

Think again, Anna.

Hahahahah
I dont think the trainers will do squat
They are like hairdressers.
Their grandfathers who fought in world war 2 would be rolling in there graves .

FUANNA 19th September 2017 12:46


Originally Posted by goathead (Post 9896801)
Hahahahah
I dont think the trainers will do squat
They are like hairdressers.
Their grandfathers who fought in world war 2 would be rolling in there graves .

The level of frustration is unprecedented.

Almost everybody has reached a breaking point.

Including trainers.

rhoshamboe 19th September 2017 12:51

Including trainers? Do you mean "the letter"?

cxorcist 19th September 2017 13:51


Originally Posted by FUANNA (Post 9896814)
The level of frustration is unprecedented.

Almost everybody has reached a breaking point.

Including trainers.

Didn't trainers, in a sense, put us here in the first place? No offense, many I like and consider friends. However, training your own cheaper replacements voluntarily is just dumb.

I have long desired to train, not check, but I will never be doing that at CX until we are all on the same contract, pay, and benefits in HK. I would make an exception for bases as long as those based contracts are sufficient to attract my colleagues away from HK (as opposed to only staffing with cheap new hires, aka a notional Asian base outside HK).

RAT Management 20th September 2017 01:50

So full of crap. It's just not funny anymore. I don't think you even believe the crap you write. COCK! That's all you are.

TheGreenDragon 20th September 2017 02:37


Originally Posted by cpahka (Post 9896788)
looking at HX crew ad at facebook [ https://www.facebook.com/HKAFOP/ ]. quicker command in 2 years time !

Of Note , from HKA Facebook site, is that there's now a new recruitment category:

" New- Direct Entry A350 - Hong Kong Licence holder"

However, No link given. Or should I be looged in to FB?

Its separate to the A350 DEFO rated ad, and therefore would indicate DEC / DEFO to none rated crew?

Some KA A330 guys are pricking up their ears ;)

cxorcist 20th September 2017 02:57


Originally Posted by RAT Management (Post 9897503)
So full of crap. It's just not funny anymore. I don't think you even believe the crap you write. COCK! That's all you are.

Strike a nerve? Must be onto something.

Flex88 21st September 2017 21:33

Dear Anna
 
Here is a novel idea and will easily improve the CX/Swire bottom line massively and without spending a penny..

STOP getting Fuc**** sued and spending billions on fines for corruption/price fixing/busting labor/tax laws etc. This will additionally and immediately cut corporate legal fees by about 95% (i.e. 95% of your legal fees are spent trying to defend CX in law suits worldwide)

Just Do It !! :D

"Time to Win" (court cases)

Uberskyjockey 22nd September 2017 05:47

The company's position is ridiculous and singling out one group to meet the accountants cost cutting even more ridiculous.
An airline needs pilots. Not caterers, check in, bus divers, secretaries, security, accountants, engineers. These can ALL be out sourced but an airline needs pilots.

spannersatcx 22nd September 2017 19:20


Originally Posted by Uberskyjockey (Post 9900047)
The company's position is ridiculous and singling out one group to meet the accountants cost cutting even more ridiculous.
An airline needs pilots. Not caterers, check in, bus divers, secretaries, security, accountants, engineers. These can ALL be out sourced but an airline needs pilots.

gee thanks for giving my job away, love you too! :mad:

Uberskyjockey 23rd September 2017 04:01

Lets be clear
 
Let's be clear the attack on FOP means "the pilots'. ISD is not part of FOP so the cabin crew are also being excluded from these proposed cuts. The FOP managers have already been promised their packages will remain intact. The question is why ?

Well, if you were CX management you would tackle the poorest represented, most fragmented, least well informed and most career minded group you could find. Answer pilots.

This year it will be CX pilots and next year CX based pilots and then KA pilots.

They will not take on the FAU who immediately threaten to stop work and this is a lesson the HKAOA refuses to learn. Negotiations require a mutual respect for each others position. The company has ZERO respect for the amateurs in the AOA and consequently will walk all over them and us.

Avinthenews 23rd September 2017 04:54


Originally Posted by Uberskyjockey (Post 9900047)
The company's position is ridiculous and singling out one group to meet the accountants cost cutting even more ridiculous.
An airline needs pilots. Not caterers, check in, bus divers, secretaries, security, accountants, engineers. These can ALL be out sourced but an airline needs pilots.

What an odd thing to say.

Sorry spanners he doesn't speak for the majority of us.

FUANNA 23rd September 2017 05:57

Every airline is a reflection of the place it originates from.

For many, Donkey Kong has turned into an unsustainable, unaffordable and toxic city.

A place, which is run by a small, corrupt, cleptocratic and incompetent 'elite'.

Now, you do your maths about its future, (and your own) in this dying city (airline).

stevieboy330 23rd September 2017 08:33

Dear Anna
Almost half of the Pilots I fly with are looking for another job.
Do you know that & don't care ? or did you not know that ?

Dan Winterland 23rd September 2017 10:59

They will care if they have to cancel flights al la Ryanair. It will hit their bonuses.


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