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The Management 7th November 2014 15:01

Chief Pilots, Flight Crew Relation Managers and Crew Control will gather names of whom they believe are in contract compliance. The names will be sorted with the Director's People, DFO, GMF, GMO, MLO, Chief Pilots with a presence from Scheduling and Crew Control.

Each name will we scrutinized and it will then be decided by the People's Director to who's contract will be terminated, position demoted or put on probation.

As the HKAOA escalate their position we will have no other choice than to protect "The CPG" and our bonus of course. We will, as the People's Director has done in the past, sacrifice some so the rest will fall into line.

The People’s Director will move to have tenancy contracts terminated, Banks informed to have mortgages called and credit card revoked of terminated employee’s.

The Hong Kong Judicial System is built to protect Businesses not Employees and if needed we will perjure ourselves. The Hong Kong Judicial System will protect us.

You can wage your war but as always, “The CPG” always has the bigger and better weapon to deal with this sort of action.

We believe the contract compliance will have no effect on our operations but will give us a chance to rid ourselves of unprofessional pilots. The HKAOA and pilots just put a bullseye on their back.

In the past most voted for Contract Compliance but never carry it out. What they say and what they do are two different things. Most don’t know how to carry out contract compliance effectively.

If I asked the question, what do you think CC is about? Is it short term or long term? If you don’t answer your phone, If you show up at sign on, If you don’t use discretion, If you have to call in fatigued, what does it do?

Passengers will still book with “The CPG” and the HKAOA say that CC will affect forward bookings. It will not affect forward bookings.

Good luck in your war, you will lose and you will sacrifice some of your pilots. I hope it is worth it.

To My Bonus
The Management.

Arfur Dent 7th November 2014 15:25

Absolutely!;)

crwkunt roll 8th November 2014 01:25


will gather names of whom they believe are in contract compliance
Good luck with that.

Trafalgar 8th November 2014 02:17

...haha. I realise it's all tongue in cheek, but look at the previous comment: " will gather names of whom they believe are in contract compliance". Please, add MY name....!! That would confirm I am complying with my contract. I'm sure there would be some bonus from management for doing so. In any other business the owners would be ecstatic that their employees are 'complying with their contracts'. You really can't make this up can you? Only in CX would actually complying with your contract be considered a bad thing. I can hardly wait for the inevitable court case when that is pointed out to the judge. Unbelievable. Lewis Carrol had nothing on this lot...and he only wrote 'Alice in Wonderland'...

ColonelAngus 8th November 2014 04:23


BlunderBus 8th November 2014 04:31

If merely complying with an employment contract is viewed as being behaviour detrimental to the company then surely, by their own definition, they're abusing it! Don't they realize how ridiculous,arrogant and 'threatening' that sounds. I've read several missives from the DFO recently regarding the company's stance on intimidation and have watched them apply severe intimidation over 26 years!!
It's a fascinating situation whereby they refuse to apply a black and white rostering system without the 'if,buts,maybe's,and 'under normal' circumstances' that would essentially remove the instability and crew discontent and yet remain unaware that it could so easily be fixed. The only people who are looking aggressive and behaving dishonourably in full view on the international stage are the folks managing this shambles. How on earth can you employ a group of new joiners..immediately renege on the employment promises..be sued in court and lose a large settlement..still be forced to employ them and wind up with employees that hate you from day one and still think you've done a great day's work...insane!

Trafalgar 8th November 2014 06:34

....I don't know if I would use the word 'hate'. Sheer bloody contempt is more to the point. What they did to the Adelaide instructors was almost an insult to the word 'contempt'. We truly are managed by people of low moral character.

bridgeport 8th November 2014 07:43

Another awesome management propaganda piece.


...many by now will be aware of HKAOA’s ratification of the Contract Compliance vote. Union action by pilots has not occurred in the Company for many years. I think it is fair to say that the broader Cathay community is disappointed by this outcome
The broader cathay community has not suffered renumeration reductions in absolute terms of roughly 50% in the last 20 years.
They also get increments in line with inflation.

For the last 20 years, our renumeration deals with management have been like playing snakes and ladders.... but without the ladders.

Trafalgar 8th November 2014 08:03

...hmmm. As in the case of me not really caring what the 'general public' think, I am inclined to also not really care what the 'Cathay Community' think either. If they aren't a pilot, then their lack of understanding of what my career entails only highlights their own ignorance. In no way does that ignorance have any bearing on what my services are worth.

bridgeport 8th November 2014 11:03

Our services are worth what someone is willing to pay for them, given the state of supply of pilots.

But so long as little boys keep dreaming of being pilots, and the AOA keeps dreaming of good faith negotiations with the company, then our salaries are always going to come under pressure.

Kitsune 8th November 2014 14:18

It's also worth remembering that the only time we were really prepared to go on strike, in the Tucknott/Fern/Horsting era, the Co. folded like the bunch of spineless cowards they are... :cool:


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