USAGI
 

Sounds like the end of the week-end will not be fun

Batten down the hatches boys :ok:, not looking good tomorrow, keep safe, grab a few and wait it out, watch some good footie on telly.

We are calling pilots on G days to sit in the Headland/Regal Hotel on Airport Reserve, at there own expense of course.

Expect calls from midnight to 6 am for volunteers.

Those on reserve will have the hotel paid for on a valid receipt provided to crew control. It will be paid to your salary within 3 months.

With fuel saving in mind, those on flying duty will hold ZSAM as an alternate with 25 minutes holding fuel, subject to payload.

We expect everyone to go beyond to help The CPG in these trying times.

To My Bonus
The Management

Safety before schedule
 

And just an additional point, Swires insist on safety before schedule, so there is a reminder in that to all pilots that your well being and the best interests of staff comes before all else, remember that caring is sharing.

'With responsibility comes accountability'

Come on chaps, this is serious. We should all get in touch with either CC directly or the Fleet Office and offer to help out in these difficult times.:ok:

According to the TAF it looks like you blokes will
get clobbered sometime this arvo or evening. Our
mob'll operate its last HKG for the day with a dep
just after lunchtime.

Yup. Just when they need you, you best show up just like they did for you in:

2001 when they fired, "for no reason", 51 of your collegues.
2008 when they threw all their second officers under a bus.
2009 when they wiped their ass with any intention of honoring housing 25.
2010 when they toasted C scale and the end of "the million dollar morons"
2011 when they finalized the goatfukk of the adaleide ip's
2013 when they finally saw the A/B/C scales tip backwards and their bonuses secured.

Make sure you're ready to do your part of the contract when the storm hits, going over and beyond any worded agreement just like you know they would for you when you find youself alone and in the grey shades of the judiciary.

Curtain,

You are spot on.

Why would you ever, ever help this lot out, EVER.

Fcuk that!

So, how bad did the wind get last night?

It's only 230/15 at 2230 z now ( 0630 HKT ) and not a single Aircraft to be seen around HKIA on Flight radar and no CX Aircraft airborne in Asia or Australia anywhere heading for HK yet. ( some long haul inbound )

Has the Met dept screwed up again? Too cautious?

Yep, I see Cebu on radar now at 2355 z

Damp squib
 

lucky for HK the typhoon turned a bit further north and we were spared
It fortunately was a non event not too much wind or rain to speak of

Planning worthy of a hefty salary and bonus for the managers behind this stroke of genius.

Our first non cancelled flight due to leave after 11am and same for our first arrival. Has been fine on the METAR since 6am HKT and not above 30kts reported since 3am HKT.

:D

Quadspeed & Curtainrod,

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
:ok:

When they allow ops during typhoons, some guys complain about being sent to war for the sake of someone else's profits and bonuses, but when they are being overly cautious they get lashed too?

Pick a side, but stick to it...

A planned cancellation of ops can be less damaging than the myriad of ad hoc diversions and last minute flight cancellations entailed by a large storm.
And weather prediction isn't exactly an accurate science.

Why should they respect our contract if so many of our pilots don't respect their contract? If you respect and honour your contract, the company has no option but to do the same. One comes before the other.

I honor and fly my contract, and Cathay goes along with it.

BIT HARSH SLOPPY JOE
 

Sloppy Joe,
No one can predict with 100% certainty when a where and with what severity a typhoon will hit so some one has to make a call and put a plan into action.

Having experienced a fair few of these events in HKG I can assure you this was managed the best of all. Well rested Crew and aircraft were in position at outports ready to return to HKG. The airport was not over run with thousands of people going there for flights that were never leaving. Crew did not have to venture out in a T8 to the airport only to get stranded when public transport gets cancelled as well as their flights.

The other possibility was to have airplanes divert to ports over extended with no where to park, catering supplies exhausted, crew out of hours, airplanes in the wrong place, HKIA over run with angry exhausted passengers and only skeleton manpower at the airport, luggage soaked, water in the mec/cec and general mayhem. in the past the recovery operation has been chaotic and taken a seriously extended time to get back to normal ops.

The fact that the weather was not as poor as anticipated can hardly be attributed to poor planning by CX. At the end of the day the recovery is swift and normal scheduling will resume quickly.

Look I'm the first guy to suggest feeding our management into a wood chipper, but the last two days went really well.
Planning was good, and everybody knew what they were doing.

I just arrived home, and flew on both days. It was well handled.

Yes, well said Cyril.

There was a time CX when would press on until the conditions got so bad that all the inbound aircraft ended up diverting in an uncontrolled mess. The end result was complete chaos that took a very long time to get back on track, with aircraft and crews all out of position. If I remember correctly, things came to a head in 1999 after Typhoon York, when it took about two weeks to get the schedule working again after the storm went through. Since then, CX has opted to shut the operation down much earlier and control the positioning of aircraft and crew. Unfortunately the forecasters don't always get it right, but that's hardly CX's fault.

Cebu Pacific are on my no fly list and this is a good indication that they will stay on it. If everyone else is grounding aircraft it's probably for a good reason.

It is better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on the ground.:hmm:

Re: Cebu
 

And your reason is ?

Metar for HK at that time, vrb 2 Kts, 9000m vis.

CX. KA and others sitting on the ground till 11 am !

You can't just contact thousands of delayed and stranded passengers saying, 'it's easing off folks, come to the airport and let's launch'.

For the first time ever, the Dart will cut management some slack. As someone operating close to the pre-notified cessation of operations, I thought it was well handled. And the reducing traffic made it a 'breeze' so to speak. Even the fuel policy was well thought out, having the extra 'ballast' fuel was nice.

Also, thanks to HKG ATC.

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That's just this year, do you really want to be onboard a Cebu Pacific aircraft with a typhoon within 1000 miles ?

Last year they put the ground staff in Novotel for 5 days they could't even go home.