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The 3rd floor knows about him...in fact just about every captain on the bus knows who he is.:ok:
How he made it through the training machine, I don't know. Maybe the standards are getting lowered to allow the cheap recruits in! |
Sqwak7700
You speak of your posts as facts, what makes them any more fact than other's posts? Seems a bit pretentious to me buddy. We could all post links that highlight incidents that occurred for a variety of reasons but surely many would involve experienced aircrew? But you ignore the fact that the recruitment drive in India is brought on by the fact that no-one is accepting the current package. I'm with you on the dilution of experience - something that has been a factor for a number of years. I was under the impression though that some of the latest recruits are quite experienced - 3000+ hours. Whether recruiting from an area "plagued by problems" will worsen this dilution of experience is moot as many of those who might have joined from more traditional areas would be similarly inexperienced. STP |
That's because an experienced STC cocked one up.
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The 3rd floor knows about him...in fact just about every captain on the bus knows who he is. |
High flying aspirations For the very first time Cathay Pacific has sent a recruitment team to India for hiring second officers. The airline that is recruiting 300 pilots annually promises long-term career development path to high potential candidates. By Sudipta Dev To keep pace with its growth plans Cathay Pacific has a target of recruiting 300 pilots annually for the next two years. A high level recruitment team was in Mumbai recently to do the first phase of screening of 77 second officers from India. It is for the very first time that the airline is doing recruitment for flight crew in India.Till recently Cathay Pacific has been majorly hiring from the traditional markets, mostly Commonwealth countries like the UK, Australia and Canada, besides of course Hong Kong nationals. In fact 43 nationalities have been working as flight crew with the airline. “In India we see a great number of very well qualified candidates. Essentiallly we chose to come at this time as as we had many applications from Indian nationals. They have been writing to us constantly though we have never advertised for the positions. We have looked at the best applications and have called them,” says Captain Paul Gunnel, deputy chief pilot (Airbus), Cathay Pacific. The airline has three streams for the recruitment of second officers – those with with no previous experience (this is only Hong Kong ID card holders); advanced entry (having commercial pilot license and 250 hours flying time); and transition training entry ( air transport pilot license and 1500 flying hours). From India this time recruitment is being done for the advanced entry stream. The recruitment team have been interviewing six people every day and those who pass the initial screening will be contacted for the second stage of selection. The first phase involves three aspects – technical paper, reasoning test and an interview. All the positions are Hong Kong based. “We will take as many proven suitable. It is important to stress that it is not a competition, those selected must meet our standards,” says Gunnel, pointing out that following the recruitment team's return to Hong Kong they will take a call on whom to call for the second stage. “We offer a package that is competitive for the candidates we seek and we offer a full career in aviation,” he adds. Training and development All pilots hired by Cathay Pacific go to Australia following their selection and depending on their experience there are three different training packages. The training programme in Australia is funded by the company. “After training they will get their Hong Kong pilot license and second officer training in Hong Kong. The second phase of the training is for two months,” mentions Gunnel. The airline is committed to career development of all its personnel and therefore wants to hire only those second officers who possess command potential. The career path from a second officer to first officer and finally a Cathay Pacific captain is what the company envisages for them at the time of recruitment. For second officers who show excellence at work it takes about three to five years to become first officers and then another five to six years to reach the position of commander and captain. While technical skill is a key criteria for selection the recruitment experts look at other important aspects as well. “We are looking at them to be commanders so we want candidates who are motivated to be with us. They should be disciplined professionals who have a passion for aviation. They should be willing to work hard to get where they want to be,” says Gunnel. For an airline that has a flight crew from 43 different countries one of the most significant factors is the cosmopolitan mindset of candidates. “A cockpit is a claustrophobic environment and to work in close contact with people from so many different nationalities and cultures it is essential for them to have a cosmopolitan outlook to be able to work in that environment,” states Gunnel. For an industry that constantly goes through ups and downs, Gunnel points out that Cathay has been good at weathering the storms and promises to meet long term career aspirations of its personnel. High flying aspirations - Express TravelWorld |
@Squawk 7700
Please allow me to paint a slightly different picture about pilots in India . There are close to 6000 of them unemployed . About 80-85% learnt to fly and obtained their license outside India due to the lack of good flying schools and flying environment for general aviation Majority of them going to the US , Canada , Europe , Australia and New Zealand As you can see they passed the very same tests you did in order to obtain their licenses . Once they are done with their flying they come back and convert their license to an Indian DGCA one . They cannot remain in any of these countries due to residency restrictions and such issues ( although a few do ) Indian Aviation has a lot of problems and hence they all went outside to do their flying All those applicants that Cathay interviews in India probably learnt to fly outside India . They probably received thousands of applications from unemployed 250 hour CPL holders which is why they must have come here to interview candidates . However these applicants have nil idea on what the job actually is or what kind of lifestyle the salary on offer buys you in Hong Kong I doubt any Indian pilot with experience employed with the airlines in India will apply to this positions if they find out the Terms and Conditions for this position . As for Air India and its incidents...... Well the saying here is unless you have powerful connections inside there is no way you will be employed with them . The above mentioned Co-Pilot probably was employed due to his connections rather than flying skills.... There are numerous threads regarding AI training being below standards....( goes by the username TopTup or something like that for more info ) If you connect the dots I think you can see bigger picture regarding AI |
Cyrilroy21:
As you can see they passed the very same tests you did in order to obtain their licenses . India may have 4000 'fake' pilots So that leaves 2000 pilots I guess? The problem is that the structure is simply not there to catch these problems. Sure, this happens in the modern world as well, but it is a matter of scale that makes it alarming in one scenario and a fluke in the other. I'm sorry, but why bother trying to sift through the scraps at the bottom of our profession when they could offer what is needed to make the talent come on their own free-will? That is the big white elephant in the room. I would love to hear JS bullsh1t his way around trying to explain that to people who are paying some of the highest fares in the world to travel on an airplane. |
Well if you read the article carefully
4000 Pilot Licenses are now under fresh scrutiny However if you read the headlines it gives the feeling that all the pilot licenses issued so far and i mean each every one of them are fake :hmm: I am sure you understand how the media loves to blow things out of proportion especially when it comes to aviation . This what happened . They get fed of trying to clear the ATPL written exams and oral exams . Yes there are oral exams for ATPL theory . If you dont pass the oral you are considered fail in the written even if you get 100% in the written exam . So what they did was they bribed some guy in front of the DGCA office to get a fake mark sheet telling they passed . Using this the DGCA issued them an ATPL . The DGCA had an a very vague syllabus until June 2011 . They were forced to publish a detailed syllabus due to the above issue I remember reading about a Captain who had forged his ATPL Meteorology paper . He got fed up of giving it again and again and then finally found someone to make him a fake mark sheet . He converted his FAA ATP license to an Indian DGCA ATPL . His FAA ATP license was original . His DGCA license was fake because of the forged mark sheet . I dont agree or support him at all for what he did but... Does that make him a fake pilot ? He passed all the FAA and Indian DGCA checkrides . But that one meteorology paper screwed up his whole career of 22 years . Like I said earlier the media loves to overhype and sensationalise when to comes to scams and aviation . The majority of them worked very hard to come this far . However the 1% that wanted it the easy way gave us a bad name in the world of aviation :rolleyes: |
There have been several Indian, experienced applicants to CX in the past like Capt. Parashar who was rejected and finished up as head of AHK Air Hong Kong before Cathay bought out the company. Not just Indians but highly experienced European applicants that didn't fit the British and Australian (with reservations) mould, including Americans. How times have changed!
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Oh boy, India bashing again. I've been trying to explain this to everyone on other forums. It just doesn't seem to get into their heads for some reason. Either you don't want to share the cockpit with us or you simply think Indians (and people from the subcontinent) don't deserve to be flying with you. Nevertheless, we're still going for it.
Sqwak7700, please don't get me wrong. But I really don't think it was your birthright to earn the title of an airline pilot. I don't want to get to the 'root cause' of this animosity shown towards us by many pilots from English-speaking countries. It is very obvious that pilots from the subcontinent have come under a barrage of criticism from the skippers/FOs (mainly the Poms/Yanks/Aussies) presently working with CX. Needless to say, there are incidents i.e. media reports associated with airlines and the regulator in India which provide substantial proof to your fancy theories. You derive some sort of pleasure when you see it coming. However, there may be many rotten eggs. But not all are. During my training for a PPL in a flight school down under, before I got my first solo, I came across a Grade 2 flying instructor (No, he wasn't from the subcontinent) and I asked him the course of action that should be taken when the static source failed (in a C152 that had no alternate static source). He didn't know what to say and decided to conveniently walk away. Now, that's just one of them. Not all. Today, he would definitely want to get into Cathay's Second Officer programme (maybe he is in it already), and if I ever bumped into him, I wouldn't judge the guy based on that question that got him knocked out 2 years ago. Many of you would right away put your bet on blokes from the subcontinent when it comes to poor standards in terms of flying and aeronautical knowledge. Again, you may get excited reading media reports and other incidents. But I wouldn't generalize this case study with all Indian pilots. Here's the bitter truth and as Cyril mentioned before - There are nearly 6000 commercial pilots with 200+ hours unemployed in India at the moment. I repeat, 'many' of them took it up just for the money and lifestyle overpowering their passion for flying which would directly affect their basic knowledge. I reckon two-thirds of them (including myself) were trained in UK, Australia, New Zealand, USA, South Africa and Canada. There isn't much of GA happening in India. Not too many flight schools either. Unfortunately, I assume only a third of that alarming figure of 6000 would be employed with the airlines in the next 10-15 years. And yes, there is always room for nepotism. The rest would take up other jobs/businesses and move on. But these are desperate times for Indian pilots, and I agree not every one of us would fit the bill. I'd be a moron if I said we wouldn't take any opportunity that comes our way. Cathay Pacific came to India (owing to the huge number of applications received) this year for the first time. According to reports, 77 qualified pilots were called for the advanced entry initial interview. Now these 77 pilots have to go through the same selection process as is conducted for pilots in the UK, USA, Australia, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand. There are some who fail and some who pass. The pilots who passed must have definitely met the standards set by Cathay Pacific (whether the standards of recruitment have gone down or not is not our headache). But the road doesn't end there. We still have to pass the written test and final interview. Wait, there's still flight grading and more checks (again, whether CX is not too strict about it is not our headache). To some of you along with Sqwak7700, with all due respect, I understand your frustration on Cathay's recruitment drive in the subcontinent and our pilots falling prey to the terms and conditions of the airline (looting taxes, poor housing allowance, low salaries) which I assume have been affecting you. Yes, I've done a bit of reading on John Warham's 49ers. If you have a serious problem with the recruitment standards, the 250+ hours criteria and the nationality of the cadet pilot, I suggest you and your fellow skippers/officers should take it up with the management. Instead, you take the easy way out by discouraging aspiring pilots from joining the airline (especially in times when there are not too many jobs in the market). We have no fallback option but to apply for the Second Officer programme with some of the airlines. As for Cathay Pacific, we may not pass the test. But we are certainly hardworking and we will try again to earn that position. But don't write us off. This is a learning curve. I'm sure you followed it too with years of training and on-the-job experience. Agreed, we have only 250 odd hours, but if it takes 4 or 5 or 6 years for the SO to JFO transition, so be it. |
Smurf,
no intelligent person doubts that Indians can be professional, skilled pilots. Racism has no place in aviation, period. But don't forget, many of us fly to India frequently, and what you experience there is, please forgive me, simply terrible. We are not blinded by media, this is true first hand experience.The standard of ATC, by pilots and contollers, the lack of any organisation or system, horrendous runway conditions, multiple useless stamps while you pass an army of uniformed muppets in the terminal, the awful traffic disregarding any rules or even common sense,useless hotel staff, I could go on and on. India today is clearly a dysfunctional society, with religious fatalism, out-of-control demographics, lethal pollution paired with corruption of epic dimensions. If I would be asked for one word to describe India it would be chaos. It is just sometimes hard to believe anything of higher standard can come out of this mess, but of course you are right that this is completely feasible. Plus I can guarantee you that any applicant, no matter from which country, will have to work very hard to have a career in Cathay. Good luck. |
The standard of ATC, by pilots and contollers, the lack of any organisation or system, horrendous runway conditions, multiple useless stamps while you pass an army of uniformed muppets in the terminal, the awful traffic disregarding any rules or even common sense,useless hotel staff, I could go on and on. India today is clearly a dysfunctional society, with religious fatalism, out-of-control demographics, lethal pollution paired with corruption of epic dimensions. All this comes down to two main reasons - corruption and population which has gone completely out of hand. Someone tries to change the system and the system crushes you. We take pride in facts such as the 2nd largest army in the world, one of the fastest growing economies, one of the biggest consumer markets....but we all know, there's a lot more than these facts. And frightening too. We'll leave that aside for now and focus on the thread. |
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Sqwak7700, please don't get me wrong. But I really don't think it was your birthright to earn the title of an airline pilot. I don't want to get to the 'root cause' of this animosity shown towards us by many pilots from English-speaking countries. You agree with many of the sentiments of my (and others) posts with the state of Indian aviation - as well as the state of many other things in India. Like yourself, I am sure there are many professionals that are fully competent and legitimate. My point is that the money that Cathay should be spending in trying to attract the best, is being wasted in sifting through the bottom of the pile. Your feeling that all these "200hr" pilots are in need of major airline jobs is just down-right scary. 200hr pilots in the seats are what leads to FOs that don't know which way to pull to make the houses get smaller. I don't care how motivated or sharp you are, at 200 hours you still have lots to learn that should be learned with fewer witnesses and participants than those on a 773ER. I do take your point that if we are not happy with the direction of the airline then we should bring it up with management. That is very true and an on-going, slow process. |
For decades Cathay Pacific paid good money to attract experienced, quality crew, later with a smattering of cadets which integrated well into the 'big picture', and did little to dilute the average experience level. This policy led to an enviable safety record and a highly efficient Flight Operations Department that was a credit to this private-enterprise airline, which operates in all environments on the planet and is based in a storm- and typhoon-prone part of Asia.
Now in the name of short term bonuses, certain managers are monkeying around with this policy. There are persistent rumors of friction in management regarding crew numbers and experience levels. Applicants are being lied to about time to command and possibility of basings. They will be living in sub-standard accommodation if and when they join, flying a busy and tiring international roster. For some six years they will be 'bonded' to the company and hold a useless P2X rating. They will also be seen by many current crew as a threat to their own conditions of service. DON'T SAY THAT YOU WEREN'T WARNED. |
Dart,
Good post! That says it all really. CXorcist |
My point is that the money that Cathay should be spending in trying to attract the best, is being wasted in sifting through the bottom of the pile. Former Australian cricketer Greg Chappell recently made a statement on the Indian culture : "The Poms (British) taught them really well to keep their head down. For if someone was deemed to be responsible, they'd get punished." I don't want to talk too much about the colonial rule and there is no point bragging about it. The past is the past and we're working towards a better future. But for all those who aren't aware - India was the richest civilization in the world. That was until the Poms came. The rest as they say is history which is now only worth a school textbook. This goes out to some of the chaps who despise India/Indians. You may or may not have heard a lot about our country. Let me remind you that India is a developing nation. Not under-developed, which is how you refer it to. And it isn't surprising to learn that foreigners tend to lean more towards the dirty picture. Agreed, on a priority basis, that needs to be taken care of first. It is only a matter of time. But you're not willing to see the bigger picture - the fact that India is one of the biggest manufacturing hubs in the world. Hundreds of Multi-national companies set up R&D labs in India. Why? Even some of the parts of the turbine engine (General Electric) are manufactured in India. We have a vast Information Technology and telecom industry. India is home to some of the best tourist spots in the world. Foreigners come to India looking for jobs cause they can't find any in their countries. We also have a vast pool of highly qualified engineers, lawyers, doctors contributing to our economy and more importantly, yours! The nuts and bolts of coexistence are important if we want to take this forward. Put it this way and this is the truth - you and I cannot be without each other, no matter how much you try to hate us. Chris Pratt, John Slosar and the entire crew would know better. P.S. - Did I just get carried away and drift the entire thread? Enough said then. |
smurf
You may be interested to know that when CX recruit outside of HKG - YVR, NYC, LHR etc, there is normally an hour assigned to each candidate, 8 candidates per day, 5 days, 40 in a week. BTW, that's a tough schedule for the interviewers. So they traipse off to India and do 77 in a week? Really? Are you SURE it's quality CX are after, not quantity? Please, you seem intelligent. It appears to me that you're being duped by the CX PR machine already. |
Some of the best Captains I ever flew with in my past life were x Indian Airlines. Very good operators.
I don't think its a racist thing. Most guys will be annoyed by any Indian Pilots accepting a lower COS and thus giving CX even more ammunition to screw us. This attitude would ( and does ) extend to more than Indian nationals. However until we grow some balls as a group nothing will change. Same thing is going on in Qantas. ( Jetstar getting all the work on worse COS ) |
So they traipse off to India and do 77 in a week? Really? Are you SURE it's quality CX are after, not quantity? Please, you seem intelligent. It appears to me that you're being duped by the CX PR machine already. I don't think its a racist thing. Most guys will be annoyed by any Indian Pilots accepting a lower COS and thus giving CX even more ammunition to screw us. This attitude would ( and does ) extend to more than Indian nationals. For now, Carpe diem ! |
Whatever floats your boat, BUT have a think how you would feel if a bunch of other nationals decided to come to India accepting lower conditions than you were on.....:hmm:
Even though your anger should be directed at the company you might still feel some resentment toward the individuals. Please bear in mind that over the last 20 years there have been multiple attacks on the CX COS package causing quite a lot of officers to suffer delays in promotion or a loss of income. Don't expect us to welcome ANYONE accepting the current COS with open arms. :ok: |
Whatever floats your boat, BUT have a think how you would feel if a bunch of other nationals decided to come to India accepting lower conditions than you were on.... Moreover, with the current salaries (roughly 3000 USD p.m for the FO and 8000 USD p.m for the Skipper) one can live a pretty good life in India. It can't get any lower than those figures. I have no complaints. It is only unfortunate that there aren't too many jobs in the local market which directly results in the condition of being desperate. "The final proof of greatness lies in being able to endure criticism without resentment." Elbert Hubbard |
nitpicker330, you said
Please bear in mind that over the last 20 years there have been multiple attacks on the CX COS package causing quite a lot of officers to suffer delays in promotion or a loss of income. Don't expect us to welcome ANYONE accepting the current COS with open arms. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif |
1/ I did say "until we grow some balls...."
2/ Have the Aussie expats in India accepted a crap COS package? Indeed a worse COS than the locals?? NO Anyway, you claim CX Pilots don't like Indians, I say it's not the nationality of the individual that is the problem. |
smurf84
I hope many of you are aware there are hundreds of expat skippers working in India at the moment. Moreover, with the current salaries (roughly 3000 USD p.m for the FO and 8000 USD p.m for the Skipper) one can live a pretty good life in India. It can't get any lower than those figures. By way of interest how comfortably well do you think you can live in Hong Kong on the package being offered? Do you think your quality of living will be higher or lower than that in India working for an Indian carrier? |
404 Titan
For that experience though they had to pay accordingly, which only drove up T&C’s, not the other way around. STP |
I've said all I wanted to say, but I must comment on this:
India is home to some of the best tourist spots in the world. |
By way of interest how comfortably well do you think you can live in Hong Kong on the package being offered? Do you think your quality of living will be higher or lower than that in India working for an Indian carrier? I don't expect anyone to empathize with us. I hate to burst your bubble but that comment proves your naivety regarding the aviation industry. This dilution of experience has a very serious safety implication which unfortunately the bean counters running the airlines have a difficult time quantifying in their little bean counter world but when an airframe spears in, it will become quantifiable very quickly. 2/ Have the Aussie expats in India accepted a crap COS package? Indeed a worse COS than the locals?? NO I'm very sure none of you would have turned it down when there are absolutely no jobs in the local market. Forget the airline industry, when 3 flying schools shut down in Sydney (due to poor management and misuse of funds), and I'm not joking, I remember a Chief Pilot who used to earn 8000 AUD per month was desperately looking for a job and he finally got into a school that paid him 3500 AUD per month. Wasn't that a decision made in unavoidable circumstances? The same applies to us. Infact, slightly better. Let me say this again for one last time. If this needs to be sorted out, it's either your way (fight) or the highway (quit). |
Really! I mean come on, really? Surely you jest. You need to get out more buddy, it sounds like you haven't traveled much. Since you're much into media reports and sources from the internet, why don't you go to this link and see for yourself. Like I said before, please try to get the bigger picture and quit complaining about our country. We, as international students, face a lot of problems in your country. We are always the victims of the dreaded 'R' word. But we tend to move on and look at the bigger picture. Tourism in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia P.S. - I'm sure Jimmy Wales and the team picked this up from reliable sources. |
... everyone who wishes to accept the contract with CX as an SO .. will only do so after considering all whats involved.
there are exceptions ... some people might be ignorant or shortsighted about the future , living conditions on lantau etc ... but at the end of the day if they are not happy with what they have signed up for they are not chained to a big shiny jet ... they are free to quit ( subject to contract conditions ) and then the question remains .. of people who make an informed decision... like me , personally 1) i am happy with the pay and conditions 2) i don't mind the average to poor lifestyle 3) i don't have a family to take care of at the moment 4) i don't want a family for the next 5 years 5) i love hong kong food 6) i don't mind if my lifespan is shortened because of pollution 7) matchbox living feels just like home. 8) i want to get into a career airline .. early in my life 9) Id rather be employed than sit at home and watch porn above all 10) I love to fly ------ I love to fly in a big shiny jet even more :} i really don't care of what you current cx employees think of people who are happy to accept the current deal. |
Smurf,
If you get here and after a few years at CX, all these comments you are reading (and in some cases vigorously opposing) will make sense. We see this all the time with new joiners who seem to have it all figured out before they join only to realize that many of the "haters" on Pprune were right all along. You are obviously an intelligent young man who may very well do a nice job here, but do you really think you have enough perspective at age 21 to refute what all these experienced guys are writing? I know if I could go back and be 21 again, I would do a lot more seeking good advice and listening with a lot less talking and thinking I could figure it all out on my own. Reference Prov 11:14. Cxorcist |
I am not able to foresee the way of living in Hong Kong with the current package being offered. But can you please tell me why millions of tourists from all over the world come to India every year? I don't want to talk too much about the colonial rule and there is no point bragging about it. The past is the past and we're working towards a better future 10) I love to fly ------ I love to fly in a big shiny jet even more I really don't care of what you current cx employees think of people who are happy to accept the current deal To all prospective S/O's regardless of nationality (yes Aussies,canucks, Brits yanks, euro's, Africans etc). if you think you deserve to occupy a seat on jet why do you believe you deserve to get paid Alot less than everyone else? := |
Shiny Jet syndrome is alive and well all over the world and don't Managers just love to exploit it!!!
p.s. The honeymoon phase is quite short in the Harbour city, be warned.:ok: |
flyhardmo
Yes you are. Its called research. You brag about your technology advanced society so you should be proficient enough to find out exactly what your living conditions will be. Because its cheap (referring to tourism in India) You obviously haven't learnt anything from history because you are allowing the colonials to screw you over once again. To all prospective S/O's regardless of nationality (yes Aussies,canucks, Brits yanks, euro's, Africans etc). if you think you deserve to occupy a seat on jet why do you believe you deserve to get paid Alot less than everyone else? cxorcist If you get here and after a few years at CX, all these comments you are reading (and in some cases vigorously opposing) will make sense. We see this all the time with new joiners who seem to have it all figured out before they join only to realize that many of the "haters" on Pprune were right all along. |
Smurf84
Whilst not trying to drag Nationalities into the equation I cannot help but direct your attention to another Thread which does seem to have a recurring theme!! http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...il-strike.html Over stretched system perhaps? The holes in the Swiss Cheese seem to line up more over there!! |
Yes, I did follow the news on that incident.
An apparent miscalculation by the pilots led to the aircraft not touching down at the correct angle, leading to the tail strike. We'll see what the report says. You might want to be concerned about Jetstar pilots fumbling with incorrect flap settings, power calculation mistakes prior to take off. I vaguely remember a Qantas flight (Sydney to Melbourne) having a tail strike in 2010 (may or may not be due to gusty conditions) and a few more incidents I've seen on Channel 9 and ABC during my stay in Australia. I'm just not willing to have a debate with regard to this matter. Let's not get into all this now. We can go on forever. I've learned a lot from this thread. |
Jeeze Louise, how many long-winded and multitudinous posts from Smurf 84 do we have to endure :ugh:?
Is he really coming to Cathay Pacific? It's going to be a long night over the Pacific with this boy...(or is he a management stooge)? |
I'll keep my sentences short if the contract was to be available for my signature :E
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Ha! You need not bear the brunt of my idle ramblings anymore. :)
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@nitpicker 330
Whatever floats your boat, BUT have a think how you would feel if a bunch of other nationals decided to come to India accepting lower conditions than you were on..... Even though your anger should be directed at the company you might still feel some resentment toward the individuals. Please bear in mind that over the last 20 years there have been multiple attacks on the CX COS package causing quite a lot of officers to suffer delays in promotion or a loss of income. Don't expect us to welcome ANYONE accepting the current COS with open arms. |
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