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fernytickles 23rd February 2008 00:27

Whoever posted the clip must still have it, surely?

TruBlu351 23rd February 2008 00:34

Check yout temp internet files and use a flash player to view it

oldsmithy 23rd February 2008 00:47

I have a photo of the fly past. Not sure how to copy it to pprune though

F_one 23rd February 2008 00:56

Who was PF and who was PM? Sounds to me that the junior pilot got the shaft....again:uhoh:

Cpt. Underpants 23rd February 2008 01:05

Bograt

Just playing the devil's advocate here:

Whilst I realise there is an intense dislike of all things managerial in CX, I suggest that the actual contents of an NTC or Newsletter are NOT public domain.

By publishing this excerpt, you are placing further company comms of this nature in jeopardy and (I would remind you) there was a company notice to all staff about distribution of sensitive material and the consequences of doing so.

If I were you, I would edit the contents PDQ. Just a suggestion, flame away.

fire wall 23rd February 2008 01:41

Bograt, I agree with undies. The NTC is not for public disemination. I advise you to get rid of it before the seniority #'s need adjusting a second time this week.

geh065 23rd February 2008 02:00

Very harsh indeed and just an excuse to get rid of him I think. All crew are now reminded not to do impromptu flybys. Was this really such a problem amongst the ranks that the CP needed to be made an example of? I do not think so.

backspace 23rd February 2008 02:32

Maybe right about the punishment but I wouldn't be surprised to see CAD cancel his licence! Unfortunately this is all out in public and anyone not seen to take the 'right' course of action may find themselves in the thick of it.

That said this has been done on every delivery flight, apparently, so will the @#$t flow down the line or not?

Fenwicksgirl 23rd February 2008 02:42

stupid!!
 
As much as my sympathies go out to the CP, i still cant believe he was that stupid to take it so low!! In this world of corporate saftey and considering he would be one of the most un-current pilots at CX (as all management pilots are, lets face it, how many times have you flown with them and were a bit shocked at their SOPs! Nothing against their abilities, just a fact of the nature of their work), not a great idea.
Dont think that CX really were happy to fire him. He has a very good reputation amongst them for his work over the years on the 777, well respected on the fleet, but this all counts for naught in the light of what he had done.
We all love a fly by, but......

828a 23rd February 2008 03:47

Considering Cathay Pacific management have decided to charge this commander with unwarranted barratry then every company pilot (or those so called) should hang his head in shame. It seems memories are short and some need to be reminded that Cathay is what it is because of such ethos as displayed by this partiular pilot.

828a

HotDog 23rd February 2008 03:50


That said this has been done on every delivery flight, apparently, so will the @#$t flow down the line or not?
The only reason disciplinary action has been taken because the flypast was made public via Youtube. I realise this has placed the company between a rock and a hard place but I feel the punishment has been too harsh.:sad:

Dragon69 23rd February 2008 05:22


Considering Cathay Pacific management have decided to charge this commander with unwarranted barratry then every company pilot (or those so called) should hang his head in shame. It seems memories are short and some need to be reminded that Cathay is what it is because of such ethos as displayed by this partiular pilot
Oh yeah I almost forgot, Cathay invented airline flying...thanks for the reminder!

Mr. Bloggs 23rd February 2008 07:41


These decisions are subject to two levels of appeal.
When did we start adhering to the D & G procedure?:eek:

My prediction is that he will win the last level of appeal and honorably retire. :ouch:Watch this space.

He was part of the Star Chamber; hang them all!:ok::ok:

What, you mean Cathay Pacific Airways didn’t invent Flying!:=

Jack57 23rd February 2008 09:09

Hkgpek
 
Gee PEK

Not sure - Is it you gaiman??

volarecantare 23rd February 2008 10:34

Thoughts go out to him and his family.
A sober reminder to us that we are only judged by our last flight in this career. What a sad bit of news.

Dragon69 23rd February 2008 10:52


Thoughts go out to him and his family.
A sober reminder to us that we are only judged by our last flight in this career. What a sad bit of news.
No you're wrong! He will also be judged for his past action, mainly being a member of the Star Chamber, so F^ck Him!

Sad??? Great bit of news from Cathay in a long long time :ok:

I Hope your thoughts are with the 49ers too!

volarecantare 23rd February 2008 11:03

Sorry D69, I don't do that nasty attitude to anyone. Nor do I like to gloat in anyones misery.

I stand by what I say for him and his family!

The attitude you express makes you no different to ones you criticize.

I'm sure he may also be thinking about the 49ers now with a different perspective.

In every situation regardless of opinion there are different perspectives.

4 driver 23rd February 2008 11:05

I tend to agree with Bloggs....the company may give him an honourable way out.
If not....does he lose his P-fund like the 49'ers did !

oriental flyer 23rd February 2008 12:14

A valuable asset lost to Cathay
 
Was the flyby a mistake ? Yes
but how many of us have never made a foolish decision before,? taken a corner a little too fast or generally done something that we later regretted?
20 20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, if given the opportunity to go back in time I'm sure the outcome would be very different.

Whilst I sympathize with the DFO being placed in a difficult position regarding this incident. I agree with all those who think that the penalty is way too harsh . He is a wonderful human being and commanded a great deal of respect amongst the troops. From my perspective he will be sorely missed and a great loss to the company. I can only wish him all the best in whatever endeavor he choses in the future.

hongkongpilot 23rd February 2008 13:42

He has been on extension already.


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