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Singaporean Plot
Captncannot by 'local' I mean Malayasian, Filipino and Indonesian - this is as stated by one of the mafia - if you are HKA be warned.
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Hey guys..! don`t be sensitive...on `indonesians` or not...as mention look at the big picture someone is trying to pose, and pass the mesage..
ie the singapore mafia displacing the present magnt and taking control by this inexperienced way junior captains with less than 1,000 PIC ....claiming to be experts in aviation industry. Good luck guys!!!! |
Whow!!! :oh: :rolleyes::rolleyes: Aviation is getting very interesting and exciting. ..
Are this the bunch of `KIDS` from Air hing kong who got their PIC with short-cuts and bribery..??? Good luck boys with HK air ;) |
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'look at the big picture' what would CX's role...any though? |
Looks like an apple smells like an apple.......
If it looks like an apples, and smells like an apple, it is probably an apple.
Just look at the turn of events in a logical sequence: 1. Manager from AHK is approached for over a year to come to HKA. 2. Said manager is recruited, along with 8 or 9 Captains (qualified or not). 3. Upgrade program is not approved by HK CAD, not because there were problems with the program. Simply because, the CEO sent a letter to CAD instructing them to not approve the upgrade program at this time (Fact). Hmmmm, what could possibly be the motivation for that. 4. Current management was not in the loop on the manager being recruited from AHK, or the captains being recruited, or the letter from the CEO. One can only hypothesize as to the reasons for the above. But......could it be that the CEO knew that GR was going to be replaced, sooner or later, and the ideal would be to have a shortage of Captains=HKA needs Captains=GR coldn't get the upgrade program approved=so, GR needs to be releaved=now we can bring in DE Captains that will accept lower pay, shut up and do as they're told. Then, the upgrade program can be approved (meaning, "See, it really was GRs problem"), but "Oh, I'm sorry, at the present we would upgrade you, but because we 'had' to hire DE captains from AHK, we now don't need any more captains at this time. So, please hang in there for the next three years. Something is bound to open up. Oops, sorry but, by the way, we've change our upgrade minimums. Perhaps you'll meet them by the time you have finsihed your three year contract. " I could be wrong in my deduction, but I don't have to eat too many bad apples to know I don't like them.:sad: |
HKA CEO instuct CAD to do their job!!!
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What ShotOver is saying makes sense. There seems to be a conspiracy going on with HKA CEO/HKCAD on one side and the management and pilots of HKA on the other.
If it is true that the HKA CEO is after DEC's for lower pay then these rumours of HKA's salary/package increase is exactly that....just rumours! Conditions havent improved much in over a year since the birth of HKA...does one think that things will get better especially with GR resigning and a mini exodus of pilots leaving for greener pastures? In a way I agree with GR's resignation. Why would he want to work under a CEO who seems to favour corrupt practices. Is the 15% gratuity guaranteed after the 3 year contract?!?!?! What HKA doesnt need now is a bout of racism as read in an earlier post. HKA, HKE, CX and to some extent KA and Oasis consist of many nationalities. We are all pretty much there to do the same job so why does anyone have any right to say which nationality is an inferior pilot? My best bet is that if the rumours are right about the thought of a union at HKA then HKA management should be worried. Its all about unity...the pilot group at HKA is after the same thing...better conditions and an upgrade program. Tis the season to be jolly.........tis time to unite! |
yeah UNITE ! you got to fight for your right to party :}
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Why We Bother?
some of us have nothing better to do, so we come in here to slander others.
I drank myself out of a job @ SQ, then created a mess for myself over with Air Asia, came to hong kong when somebody gave me a break with AHK, ran off the runway soon as i started training, NO fault of mine, mind you, airbus didn't teach me the correct technique! But here i still am, with a job and lots of time on my hands. Nothing better to do, just like you lot, really want to be somebody in the airline industry, but lack the abilities, cause everybody in the world just can't seem to see all my talents, which i know i have, i keep telling everyone that all the time. I am one of the best, if not the best instructor in the world, if only they will give me a chance to share my knowledge and vast experience. Guess the only way left for us LOSERS to get somewhere in this world is to slander everyone else. What have we got to lose? Got nothing better to do anyway. :} |
Sunmoon
Even with my superior nowledge of the englasse I don’t follow? What are you on about? And everyone nos that Brazilian pelots are the best in the world! We invented aviation and are still reinventing it on a daily basis. I R Baboon. |
Hi baboon,
A TAM planeja oferecer mais serviços e benefícios, mas somente aos passageiros que pagarem por eles. A sua estratégia para se diferenciar da principal concorrente, a Gol, é ampliar o seu programa de cinco diferentes perfis de tarifas, lançado no final de 2006, no qual o passageiro leva o que paga. A informação foi dada ontem pelo recém-empossado presidente David Barioni, que até setembro deste ano era executivo da concorrente, em entrevista a jornalistas na sede da TAM. Ele afirmou também que em 2008 a companhia aérea entra para uma aliança operacional internacional, muito provavelmente, de acordo com analistas, a Star Alliance (até o ano passado, era a Varig a representante brasileira). |
No but seriously sunmoon. What are you on about?
The TAM plans to offer to more services and benefits, but only to the passengers who to pay for them. Its strategy to differentiate itself of the main competitor, the Goal, is to extend its program of five different profiles of tariffs, launched in the 2006 end, in which the passenger leads what paid. The information was given yesterday by just-installed president David Barioni, that until September of this year was executive of the competitor, in interview the journalists in the headquarters of the TAM. It also affirmed that in 2008 the aerial company enters for international an operational alliance, very probably, in accordance with analysts, the Star Alliance (until the passed year, the Brazilian representative was the Varig). brasileiro stupid parte de ***** do babuíno Love I R Baboon |
Sunny boy, I was with my CTC, good ole chap from CX, he was watching my technique for lineup and we ran off the hard surface when the brand new engines didn't rev up together. Like i posted earlier, not my fault. He didn't catch the uneven run-up. He was the PNF and instructor. If i were the instructor, nothing of this sort would have happened.
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To All You Bigots
Get off all your high horses, you bunch of bigots.
If the gangsters managing HKA were doing a somewhat okay job, nobody will be fired or replaced or whatever else. Stop blaming the whole world for your inadequacies and slandering the authority when you can't even understand the rules of the state. The replacement is going to have such an easy time showing just how inept you IDIOTS were. If this is all you can do, it's no wonder why you bigots deserved whatever is coming your way. Am going to get rid of the new replacement myself, by doing exactly what you nincompoops are doing here. Slander the world, post all the obvious, everybody is dangerous, for ONLY i am fit to fly. I am the ONE expert of aviation here! Only I am qualified to recruit and instruct, if you are not white and/or turbaned, don't bother to apply, for ONLY we are safe and worthy. |
Bravo, sardarji! Great Chief Round Kicking Ass once said, beware for these fair dinkums speak with forked tongue!
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Exactly How i see It....
Sunmoon wrote -
Why I am writing all of this? Hiring pilots from Indonesia (or England, USA, Nepal...) the way Singaporean mafia is doing is putting HKG aviation in danger. Giving to someone job offer based on a short conversation in pub somewhere in Tung Chung is nowadays criminal way of doing business. One crash in HKG or somewhere else involving Airline from HKG can cost many of us our jobs. HKA management, think about your action! end quote... Well done Sunny my boy, you will fit right into my organistion, we should get together, come up with a plan for world domination asap, instead of doing it on our own. i can see all the talents and qualities you have, pretty similar to what i have, but you still need more development, so i will teach you, no worries my boy. I will take care of you rightly. We will spy on the world and spread malicious rumours whenever and wherever we can. HKA management must be blind not to hire me for the vacant post of DFO. I will get you back into management Sunny boy, once am there. Then together we will rule the skies over HKG, and when we are done replacing all the pilots here with either our friends or pilots who will lick our shiny boots, we will take on the world. Who do this singaporean snakes think they are? Coming into our playground, and trying to improve things? We don't need you! As i understand from my spying, things are running really well over there at HKA for you guys in middle management, till these snakes came along. Recruitment was done not in a pub but over the phone. You only go pubbing with the new joiners when they are employed and brought over. I for one think that is the right way, i love to have a couple of beers myself. Everything else in your posts, well? I will teach you how to get things right when am there Sunny boy. We just have to tell the world here that we are doing this and that, all the right things, don't really have to do it, mind you, nobody will know any better... for the rest of the world are blind and dumb. Watch out, you singaporean snakes, am watching you!!!! |
My dear Sunny boy in that little dreamland,
I am coming for that pathetic little outfit HKA, it's not yours'. Little arrogant B*****d. It's mine, mine, mine.....!!!!! Who's gong to terminate me??? who dare??? You can't even get your facts right, little boy. You wanna play in the big leagues, go join the big boys, i was there..... were you, sunny boy? Talk is cheap matey, we all know how well you did in the company, so don't think you can get away with behaving like you're the boss. You are just another number.... ever wonder why you are wasting your time here slandering the world and bitching about everything? If you're as good as your claim to be, you will be on another forum, bitching about something else. Can't get a job with the big boys, little Sunny boy? Unlike me, i have all the experience required to manage half mooners like you. |
Watch out captain beer I.R come to get you. Now that I.R have the top job I.R gunna kick some ass just you watch me! I kick your vb drinkin ass captain beer! Oh and sunmoon please be getting your tongue out of I.R ass.
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bunch of adults talking like kids and things are really getting personal, please show some ethics and professionalism here and no point being a racist. Get together as a team and do what is right instead of pointing fingers, slander, B!tc*, etc.
CAPT. BEER, i believe it is not the first time for you to run off the runway in BKK. What happened at Bandung ? You left some nice skidmarks on the runway didn't you? Were you always too drunk and to show off to and talk BIG that you were in SQ before ? Word around says that you were so pissed drinking and missed your flight during a nitestop and you never got promoted at your BIG league. |
Sounds and LOOK like just like the present gang in management, don"t you think Sunmoon? Picture of yourself? Perhaps that's why you fit so well? looked in the mirror recently? Can't stand it when the chap you are trying to ridicule here is promoted to the #1 spot?
Party time......... Oh, let the losers lick their wounds here, taste kinda sour? sure, that's jealousy mate! |
I.R is no "sq mob". I.R not come from sq.
sunbuffoon you think you are so smart? I.R has toe jam with more brains than you. Like the picture though but its not my best side as you cant see my mustache. |
These are the facts
Draw your own conclusions from the following:
Indonesia takes air safety standards back five years Steve Creedy, Aviation writer | December 03, 2007 AIR safety has taken a significant backwards step, with crashes in Indonesia helping push this year's global aviation accident rate back to 2002 levels. The disappointing slip came after a decade-long campaign by international airlines to halve the accident rate produced the safest 12 months on record last year. A reminder of Indonesia's troubled air system came at the weekend when one of the country's busiest airports, at Medan, was closed indefinitely after a fire razed the domestic passenger terminal. Preliminary results for this calendar year from the International Air Transport Association show an accident rate of 0.9 aircraft losses for every million flights, up from 0.65 for 2006. Crashes in Indonesia, including the fatal accident at Yogyakarta that killed five Australians in March, pushed the Asia-Pacific rate up to a sobering 3.27 losses for every million flights. The increase in the accident rate comes at a time the aviation industry is growing at 5-6 per cent a year and means the absolute number of crashes will rise accordingly. It also undermines a push by the International Air Transport Association to cut the accident rate by a further 25 per cent by the end of next year. IATA director-general Giovanni Bisignani described the result as "a big step backwards". He said some areas were doing well and there had been no accidents in the Middle East or North Africa. IATA's work with Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States had also helped to turn the worst safety record of last year into a clean slate so far. Europe and North America also reported improvements, while North Asia suffered one total aircraft loss but still had an accident rate below the global average. The international airline group blamed three areas for the increase: the Asia-Pacific, Brazil and Africa. Mr Bisignani said tragic accidents pushed up the Latin American total aircraft loss rate to 2.52, while the Indonesian crashes increased the Asia-Pacific rate to 3.27. In Africa, a more dispersed and unrelated set of accidents increased the rate from an already bad rate of 4.31 to 6.04. "We are a global industry and flying must be safe everywhere," Mr Bisginani said. IATA had established partnerships with Indonesia and Brazil to improve the situation with practical measures and was working in Africa. The IATA prediction comes after the European Union recently voted to maintain its ban on Indonesian airlines because Australia's northern neighbour had failed to make enough progress in improving its troubled aviation system. All Indonesian carriers, including flag carrier Garuda, were banned earlier this year from landing at EU airports. The director of aviation safety and environment for the EU, Roberto Salvarani, said during a recent visit to Australia Indonesia had made some progress but this was marginal compared with the restructuring needed. |
Another one:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007...s_30049197.php “Authorities say they will not make any assumption regarding the cause of the tragedy until investigation is completed, although bad weather was obviously a problem at the airport over the weekend. An American pilot who landed just prior to the One Two Go plane reportedly told CNN that the landing was one of the toughest he had ever undertaken - indicating that the weather conditions were severe. Like several other airlines, One Two Go has reportedly undergone manpower changes. The boss of One Two Go and Orient Thai budget airlines, Udom Tantisprongchai, is said to have replaced several of his Western and Thai pilots - allegedly to cut costs and reduce the chance of work disputes with crews with Indonesian and Philippine pilots. However, authorities insisted it was too soon to presume anything, including whether human errors played a part in the tragedy. Certain reports said the pilot was given permission to abort the landing in the final minutes. Communications between the pilot and the air traffic controller and their judgements _ information contained in the black box _ could shed some light on the tragedy. Some aviation sources said an instruction or decision to land in Krabi could have been taken in extreme weather conditions.” |
ShotOver
Quote: "Simply because, the CEO sent a letter to CAD instructing them to not approve the upgrade program at this time (Fact)." Is that the reason CEO sack today ? |
Heard that there is a new CEO at HKA....and that the Managing Director's position is vacant!?!?! Anyone care to shed some light...
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New CEO is Mr David Lui and the MD's job is up for grabs...the board have obviously decided to cut down some timber, I wonder if more trees are to be felled?
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What's it all mean?
David Lui? Is this the same David Lui as was the General Manger, Engineering for Dragon Air?
Anyone know anything about this guy? Is it a good thing? Was the old staff moved up? or out? |
I am not sure what the issue is with the current managent pilots. They seem to have done a pretty good job so far wether they be Aussie/Kiwi/Brazillian/Malaysian/Indian/black/brown/yellow/white/blue!!!! Why replace them?
The only one that needs to be replaced from the management pilots office is 'Chief Pilot' (wannabe) 'Captain' KW who sits on the recruiting officers chair! Heard she has 1000 hours S/E but treats pilots from HKA as dirt! |
Hey ecosystem becareful that site is being monitored with the help of PPrune Administration to trace IDs and emails linked to it. Better keep away from that site and don't spread.
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Hey Dragonspice
The only one that needs to be replaced from the management pilots office is 'Chief Pilot' (wannabe) 'Captain' KW who sits on the recruiting officers chair! Heard she has 1000 hours S/E but treats pilots from HKA as dirt! The person to whom you refer actually works very hard at HKA, more so than they are paid to do. The only problem that person may have is that they find it hard to hide the fact that they do not suffer fools easily, which leads to the conclusion that this may have something to do with your animosity towards them. After all if the shoe fits.......:=:yuk: |
Hi Folks...
...Any news about HKA recruitments????:suspect::suspect:
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Putting The Record Straight……………
As a MAPA member, I would like to put on record a few points before an interesting year 2007 comes to an end. Referring to the post by 168 for HKA recruitment (which was removed), though individual name’s should have been omitted, but facts remain that the particular post was posted on our MAPA Industrial Forum in March 2007. Wonder it was posted in SQ ALPA’s forum?
That particular post was then being edited 1st week of Dec 2007 ………kalian masih ingat kan????? Heard RJ/RS (together with SIN mobs coming to HKA through the back door perhaps????) have moved on to recruit AK / AA ;) boys in a ‘hide and sick’ manner. Macam geng kita MR69 bilang, we MH boys as well as our ex-colleagues in KimChi land should not be drag into their own doings. Their bitterness should not make any of our MH boys (be it current or ex-colleagues) a scape goat … Aduhai…JANGAN NAK KENAKAN GENG-GENG SENDIRI kan???????? :{ Hope 2008 will be a glorious year of opportunities for Professional Pilots in Asia including Fragrant HarBour…….:ok: Wishing all our friends in KimChi land, SandPit, Singapore & rest of the world a very Selamat Tahun Baru / HAPPY NEW YEAR!!….:D Safe flights! |
Hi Bila, whats with you. This topic has been taken off by the Administrator. No one is interested in this anymore.
You want to bring this up again? You want to start another round? Nothing to put straight - are you straight? 168 died so let it be. No need to mention Kimchiland anymore. Who you collaborating with? I am Vincent. Letter was addressed to me. Who are you? if you dare to admit, otherwise call me. If you are truly what you say you know how to get in touch with me. Nothing you say here can change the fact that people you are against have move up places and those opposing have been kicked out. You are going against those who have big followers and connections. Who do you have? Suggest you stay out of this. |
pilot job in hong kong?
Hi.. guys.. I need your help..
I am new in this forum and just wondering if anyone knows currently working as a pilot for any good airlines in Hong Kong? I would like to help my friend as he has over 10 years of experience in Airline industry and currently is looking for a good airline pilot job... Does anyone has any recommendations or know any good airlines whom is looking for a pilot? (preferable with base in Hong Kong).. well..it would be great if you have a direct person contact/ recruitment contact email so he can send his resume to them... *I think that he is also interested to apply for the Fedex/ DHl cargo airlines... it would be great if anyone can help me.. thanks. :) |
your friend has over 10 years experience, well i am sure Cathay, Oasis, Dragonair, HK airlines, HK express, all happyy to reciev his resume.
Fedx and DHL have no Hk base that i know of. If your friend does a web search u can get all the address to send resume to. |
Hi VSKY72
You are a great friend of 10 years experienced aviator and yet not able to find a good airline in Fragrace Harbour with new emerging airlines like HKA, apart from existing CX/KA......:ooh: very intersting. Your 10 year experienced friend could probably post the same as you did and find the options and get direct answers...!! See you that have several post as 'new' in pprunes. Good luck to your experienced friend seeking for a HKG based job :D |
Hey Vincent!
So its "followers and connections" NOT professionalism in this aviation world anymore ha! :ugh: Please stop this threats, maintain some level of maturity and not embarass us in MAS if you really are, kawan.! Grow up! Move on and join RJ's HKA.This perangai/behaviour is just like thugs and mafias..man! := |
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