SACKED on purpose
 

anybody hear about a guy last month who supposedly "missed" his return trip to HKG on purpose without telling crew control, the flight got delayed and he got sacked?

As it turned out, he didn't want to deal with the 3 months notice nor paying CX 3 months worth of salary so he did that to get fired, IT WORKED!!

He is now back at his old job in the U.S.

Good on ya mate!!

I wish more people have balls like yours around here.

If what you say is true, what he did doesn't take balls, it takes no balls.

Balls ?
The N Sync club castigate this company for the many "dishonourable" acts they perpetrate against the workforce yet when a collegue acts in the same dishonourable maneer they hold him in esteem. What of the crew member whose roster was disrupted due reserve call out as a result of this act. What of the other crew members whose date getting back to their families was delayed as a reult of the subsequent delay? What of the pax sitting in the terminal till the appropriate crew compliment could be found?
This company runs rampant because it is dealing with children. When are you going to grow up?

I hope more will be inconvenienced so this company learns to treat their staff better so this won't happen again!

C-152Captain

You're not related to hostile23 are you?:ugh:

An act of spineless selfishness more like - worthy of CX Management...

No, no relation. I served my 3 months notice in full.

Just demonstrates how desperate some people are to leave Cathay Pacific Airways.

THE GREATEST AIRLINE IN THE WORLD..............yeah right!:p

I don't really know anything about CX but all ive heard are very negative things, what is so bad about them?

nothing, it is the best!

C152Cap,
You are 'extracting the michael' aren't you?

or is your Dad :* on the 3rd floor pulling your strings?

Should have stayed with his previous Command!

regardless of one`s dislike of their job, their airline, etc, one should still retain a level of personal pride.
An act like this, to be honest, says far more about the person, than about Cathay.
I would not endorse this action, and I think it is pretty one off.
I would not admire the guy for this, I would suggest that maybe this time, just this once, cathay got it right, he deserved to be fired, and he was probably not an ideal crew member anyway.
Doesnt change CX one bit, nor is it a "statement"
However, I still think they are a bottom of the barrel choice these days.

You only get what you deserve. Cathay once fired 49 guys out of the blus and ruined their lives - they didnt seem to care to much back then - did they??
Too bad for the pax - but hey - thats life. I wonder if he gets his full pension paid out - does anybody know that? - just out of interest!:eek::D

Anyways good luck to him - bet hes having a laugh :D

I think no matter what his state of mind with the company was, this clearly shows a lack of professionalism. How is he going to explain this to his next airline?

If he wanted the sack I'm sure he could have found many other ways to achieve his goal!

Pension?!!!

So what are we? Professionals in our chosen field, or morons who applaud such pathetic behaviour?

Oh. I see they dont pay you pension?

That is correct.

I must admit that even I can't condone what this guy did.
Leaving kids stranded at Heathrow with stressed out parents trying to cope with being a day behind schedule on their holidays is pretty poor form really. If your going to go, go like a man not like a mouse.
I liked the story about the guy that laid his uniform and books out on the bed and left the hotel (that was actually funny) this guy is just weak by the sounds of it.

Choices:

1. Stick it out for 3 months and take more abuses while seniority passes you by at a new job.

2. Quit and run without notice and CX comes after you (in a big way) for 3 months salary PLUS 3 months worth of housing allowance.

3. Get sacked and get PAID 3 months.

I'd take the latter, thank you very much!

Kids stranded at Heathrow?? That's why they have reserve crews, mate!

Me? I just love to see CX get screwed!!

My question was would he be entitled to recieve his provident fund, eg 100%of it?

Nothing about whats right or wrong and all that - just in relation to CoS. Im sure there will be other guys out there knowing the answer - as he is surely not the first one to sacked from the worlds most admired airline :D

Yeah I suppose its pushing it a bit to just not show up for a flight - on the other hand there are other dudes on standby (or should be) and cathay didnt seem to care to much back in 2001 when they destroyed the lives of 49pilots..
Maybe for a sim-ride or something like that.. Just call screwcontrol and tell them u feel unhappy dont wanna miss The Simpson on tellie..

I dont see what the guy has to explain to his new airline, do you really think all companies are so anal. Me, dont think so.

Me thinks you should rephrase it to 49 families, mate.

Don't worry mate, you'll get over it. I was pretty stupid at age 27 myself and set out to right the world's wrongs. Takes a while to grow up.

"I dont see what the guy has to explain to his new airline, do you really think all companies are so anal. Me, dont think so." said Yeager

When it comes to employing pilots yes, they all are and it is usually done by a 'phone call, you are being naive if you think they don't.

Do you believe everything you read on the internet mate? Let me guess, you think I actually live in Coastal Skyline in TungChung too, don't you? :ugh:

It sure does takes a while to grow up, hang in there! I am sure your turn will come.

One thing, and it may only be a few, that Ive learned "growing up" is that people who uses the word naive - very often are just that themselves.

And no. I dont think, that all airlines are neither anal nor make phone calls. But maybe they should. Its called discretion, mate. Most companies will appreciate the fact that the prospect is still employed by another company. Cathay never called my previous employer - and thank god for that!! :D:p

So dont be so worried. Have fun.

Who really cares HOW he left. The fact is he left. It's another mark on the tally. I only hope they've got a big black board and a lot of chalk, because they will be drawing a lot more lines through a lot more names in the next year or so..........................Too many opportunities out there that don't include " must be willing to humbly consume ones own excrement at the companies discretion" in the Conditions of Service.:ok:

Who goes around comes around
 

The aviation community is relatively small, so word gets around; and someday his former [and future] employer(s) will learn what a D!ckhead he was at CX for walking off the job without notice. :ouch:

You mean just like the community has forever learned what dickhea.s CX was when they randomly fired 49 pilots? Because the community has certainly learned that! :D

I dont think you are right anyways - dont think they will know. Its not a big deal anyways. :oh:

Cheers.

Funny industry we work in. When it's time for furloughs or sackings, the company never think twice. But when you found other/better opportunities, it is considered as "disloyalty".

You are correct! Aviation is small and our community has taken notice of what's going on over in Hong Kong and how Cathay Pacific not able to keep pilots.

Remember it is a two-way street, mate.

and then again...
 

Cant say i totally agree with how this chap went about it but hey i dont know how he has been treated by CX. The fact of the matter is, is that we have options now that we never had and that can only be a good thing. The company has created this lack of loyalty and as someone said a while ago about the union, "management get the union they deserve", can also be appied to staff and their loyalty!!!
My loyalty left with 49 guys. I am here to get out of it what i can. When and how i leave will be hopefully under my choosing!

geez a lot of people are full of hot air..............
Ya talk the talk but can ya walk the walk????????

ACMS
 

What walk would that be mate? Your walk perhaps? Two steps behind and slightly to the right of Nicky? Subserviant yes man..............:yuk:

hostile23

Just clear something up for me. Is it your contention that to work for CX everyone has to be a subservient yes man? You are an absolute crack up. Keep it coming I look forward to reading your rants.

Pilots quit airlines everyday in various ways for various reasons. This guy just chose to burn any bridges with CX, so what? This is a reflection on him a lot more than a reflection on CX.

Ahhh H23...................still here I see. I'll give you just one thing............you actually did something...........so good on you I guess you walked the walk. However if I had a dollar for every time I heard someone say they were leaving I'd be able to retire now:ok:
I too have thought of leaving Cx for other pastures but at the end of the day they wont be greener than here. I've made my bed and am now sleeping reasonably well, although a pay rise is damn well over due. :*
cheers.
p.s. when do you actually leave Cx and join easy jet then?

What is wrong with CX?
 

I don't really know anything about cx but all ive heard are very negative things, what is so bad about them?

Not a lot. The same handful of people out of a thousand plus pilots keep on ranting and raving about CX and the terrible injustices heaped upon them. These individuals will never be happy anywhere so don't judge Cathay by what you read on Fragrant Harbour.

Holy Shiet!! Nine months ago we had over 2000 pilots and now just "a thousand plus"?

An expanding airline with a shrinking seniority list? How does that work?

But then again, it is not wise to believe everything written on the internet.

And it's still the same handful that keep stirring the "Shiet".:ugh: