two more 777-300s
 

From Reuters:

Cathay Pacific orders two Boeing 777-300 jets
Thu Jun 1, 2006 11:23 PM IST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Hong Kong flagship airline Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. said on Thursday it placed orders for two additional wide-body Boeing 777-300ER aircraft with a total list price of about $501 million.

The order means Cathay is now committed to buy 18 of the extended-range planes, after the airline placed its biggest ever order in December. It holds purchase rights for 18 more.

Does anyone know how many new cockpit crews do they need per aircraft entering service?

Minimums!

I would hazard a guess at between 60-70 per aircraft, assuming it will be doing additional runs (did I hear 5 flights per day to LAX?). :{ Taking into account the need for reserve crews, pilots on holidays, crews already on layover, etc. This could be reduced if our F&DT limits are increased. :\

Thanks for the info near miss.

Minimums!

If it was 10 crews per a/c it would be 20 pilots. I think you're a bit over the top there.:confused:

Definately no extra Engineers!:=

You won't need them Spanners, it's not an Airbus :oh:

BusyB with the 773ER doing ULH then they are going to need more than two pilots per sector. Unless you know something I don't, which isn't difficult.

Here is what I was thinking. Keeping it really simple, say an extra two LAX per day, gives approx 120 extra sectors a month. If a pilot only does ULH then they’ll do three layovers a month. So 4 pilots to do 6 sectors, 120 / 6 equals 20, multiply by 4 pilots, gives you 80 needed. Now there are of course holidays, F&DT limits, need for reserves, more than three layovers a month and the fact that not all flights are going to need 4 crew. So the above is only a (very) rough calculation, hence my guess at around 70.

Near Miss,

I don't know what CX's exact crewing numbers are (only that they are always undercrewed).

The standard crewing ratio for LH/ULH is between 10-12 crews per a/c which gives 20-24 pilots per a/c.

An LAX service takes about 1.5 days for the a/c to do the return (including the downtime) so 2 aircraft are going to do about 40 LAX's a month.
That is 80 crews, each crew does 3, thats 27 crews, 13.5 per a/c. Now if you take into account most of the 777's are short/medium haul and that equates to leave, Sim, sickness and reserve, I think you can see that 10-12 crews/aircraft is not a million miles away.

Disclaimer. I am not an expert on this, just been around a fair time.:hmm:

Well according to the daily news we took on our 2000th pilot, and we have 97 a/c. Which gives an average of 20 per a/c.

Far too many if you ask me!:rolleyes:

I thought one crew for ULH was 4 pilots. And we are talking 773ER which will mostly be used for ULH to JFK, LAX and later SFO. :confused:
Anyway, I was thinking of the number of ULH flights per day (using LAX as an example) and thus the number of pilots just to do those flights. I also have been told (straight from the horse's mouth) that one extra LAX per day means 70 extra pilots.
It doesn’t really matter; whatever the crew:aircraft ratio, more aircraft means more pilots. Which is a good thing. :ok:

Will there now be S/O's trained for the 777-300ER only or will S/O's be qualified on both the 747-400 and 777?