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Babyjet_dododo 25th Mar 2024 15:53

Cathay Roadshow Australia
 

“Cathay Pacific Pilot Recruitment Roadshow in Australia! 🇦🇺

✈️ We are thrilled to announce our upcoming pilot recruitment roadshow, where we will be showcasing incredible flying opportunities!

📍Join us at our exclusive events in Sydney, Adelaide, and Perth, where we will provide valuable insights into our organization, highlight the benefits of working with us, and offer on-the-spot interviews for a limited number of slots.

Sydney: 21-22 Apr
Adelaide: 23-24 Apr
Perth: 26-27 Apr

📚 During the info session, you'll gain a comprehensive understanding of our company culture, career progression paths, training programs, and the unrivaled perks of being part of our esteemed team. Whether you're starting your aviation journey or looking to take the next step in your career, this roadshow is the perfect opportunity to connect with our professionals and explore the exciting possibilities that lie ahead.”
Let me elaborate on this marketing campaign.

Company Culture - Toxic

Career Progression - Slow….like double digits slow.

Training Programs - Comparable to low cost carriers. Min Sim time and sectors. And expected to know everything and recite all operational documents back to front.

Unrivaled (sic) perks - Is this the $50000 HKD Yearly limit Medical benefits with multiple restrictions (that will not get far in HK)?

Or maybe it’s the Amazing condition that if you get injured down route, they will still deduct the cost from your personal medical benefits?

The sub-par education allowance?

Airblast 26th Mar 2024 00:25

…and if you’re recruited with a promise to join the B777 fleet, there’s an above average chance you’ll be switched to the A321 within weeks of joining. It has happened to at least 6 DEFOs in the past 8 months.

PilotAdrian 28th Mar 2024 08:13

I dont know, I will go there to chech what they will tell me...

AQIS Boigu 28th Mar 2024 23:01

A few disgruntled QLink or Network pilots might be interested in CX as a stepping stone.

Are they promising bases again? 😂😂😂

This roadshow won’t fix CX’s recruitment dilemma though

lucille 29th Mar 2024 22:12

A lot of disgruntled Network pilots will be interested. Two days will not be enough. They will be inundated.

KABOY 29th Mar 2024 22:37


Originally Posted by lucille (Post 11626063)
A lot of disgruntled Network pilots will be interested. Two days will not be enough. They will be inundated.

They can go from disgruntled to depressed when they join CX.

Not happy with a contract now, how about a handbook….

cxflog 29th Mar 2024 22:40

Out of the frying pan…

dabz 30th Mar 2024 02:24

I'm an Auzzie who eats shrimp off the barbeeeeee.

Do I use my E3 visa to fly for an American airline where they're arguably paying the most in the aviation industry at the moment.

Or do I go and work for Cathay?

🙄

Babyjet_dododo 30th Mar 2024 06:51


Originally Posted by dabz (Post 11626124)
I'm an Auzzie who eats shrimp off the barbeeeeee.

Do I use my E3 visa to fly for an American airline where they're arguably paying the most in the aviation industry at the moment.

Or do I go and work for Cathay?

🙄


I think you should go work for Cathay, just think of how much money you’ll lose! Trade in the nice lifestyle in the US for a 600-1000 sq ft apartment, an amendable handbook instead of a contract, no union protection and pollution that’ll make sure you keep your windows and doors closed 90% of the year.

But be warned it’s so competitive that they’re conducting interviews at these roadshows so good luck!

SOPS 30th Mar 2024 07:11

Trying to get an interview with Cathay, or at least, getting an interview with Cathay was like winning the lottery. [ In the old days.]

Now .. they come to you!!! ( think about that, those who are considering.)

corporal klinger 30th Mar 2024 10:22

Do you know any airline that isn't easier to join today than 20 years ago?

Babyjet_dododo 30th Mar 2024 11:56


Originally Posted by corporal klinger (Post 11626298)
Do you know any airline that isn't easier to join today than 20 years ago?

Easier yes, open door interviews - unheard of. Even airlines that run roadshows don’t conduct on the spot interviews.

Skippy69 31st Mar 2024 00:27

Would love someone in the roadshow to have the gusto to stand up in the middle of the presentation and ask if they're considering reinstating the salary of at least 2019 which is 40% more than the trash currently on offer. And perhaps a housing allowance that will allow you to afford something semi decent??

Cathay took a great opportunity to deteriorate there conditions and now they facing the music.

Just remember SO's from other parts of the world are coming in with a bare CPL. Our GA pool here in Aus is gold in comparison to what they are generally accepting.

Anyone with the credentials and jet time for a DEFO should be asking for what they're worth and at least matching the contract (plus CPI) from the pre pandemic offers.

VforVENDETTA 31st Mar 2024 03:15


Originally Posted by Skippy69 (Post 11626647)
Would love someone in the roadshow to have the gusto to stand up in the middle of the presentation and ask if they're considering reinstating the salary of at least 2019 which is 40% more than the trash currently on offer. And perhaps a housing allowance that will allow you to afford something semi decent??

Cathay took a great opportunity to deteriorate there conditions and now they facing the music.

Just remember SO's from other parts of the world are coming in with a bare CPL. Our GA pool here in Aus is gold in comparison to what they are generally accepting.

Anyone with the credentials and jet time for a DEFO should be asking for what they're worth and at least matching the contract (plus CPI) from the pre pandemic offers.

And if cathay agreed to it, you accepted, you show up on 1st day, get onboarding started, 2nd day... cathay will inform you that your terms and conditions have now been changed as stated in "the handbook". You're now under adjusted pay and benefits same as everyone else on cos 18. Remember, there's no contract at cathay. There's not even a presence from Cathay to keep their word. It says it in the first paragraph of "the handbook ". Company can change anything at their sole discretion from time to time. This document is not enforceable.


mngmt mole 31st Mar 2024 05:31

The document is "not enforcable"...but people still foolishly join CX knowing they have no anchor to the terms of their career. It is a fool that ties themselves and their families to such a travesty.

Sam Ting Wong 31st Mar 2024 07:02

Nice try, gents. But apart from the transparent motives behind it, you are missing the point.

Recruitment is primarily via cadets.
EK program is 180 k USD upfront.

Babyjet_dododo 31st Mar 2024 09:47


Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong (Post 11626712)
Nice try, gents. But apart from the transparent motives behind it, you are missing the point.

Recruitment is primarily via cadets.
EK program is 180 k USD upfront.

Cadets take 18 months from employment to line check. Qualified pilots don’t need that much time, and CX really needs to plug the holes in the sinking ship quickly

corporal klinger 31st Mar 2024 16:12

Now I am confused. Sinking or imploding?

AviatorPac 31st Mar 2024 19:53


Originally Posted by Skippy69 (Post 11626647)
Would love someone in the roadshow to have the gusto to stand up in the middle of the presentation and ask if they're considering reinstating the salary of at least 2019 which is 40% more than the trash currently on offer. And perhaps a housing allowance that will allow you to afford something semi decent??

Cathay took a great opportunity to deteriorate there conditions and now they facing the music.

Just remember SO's from other parts of the world are coming in with a bare CPL. Our GA pool here in Aus is gold in comparison to what they are generally accepting.

Anyone with the credentials and jet time for a DEFO should be asking for what they're worth and at least matching the contract (plus CPI) from the pre pandemic offers.

The credentials required aren't jet time anymore; it changed at the start of the year.

You now only need to be a current turbo prop pilot working on anything MTOW > 10T and have done 100 sectors in the last 5 years to get a spot as a DEFO.

If you put yourself in the shoes of somebody with less than 1000 hours on a turbo prop who is looking at slow progression in their home country you could see why they might be interested.

The industry isn't what it was pre-covid.

Babyjet_dododo 31st Mar 2024 19:59


Originally Posted by corporal klinger (Post 11627025)
Now I am confused. Sinking or imploding?

I think the sinking comes first, then the implosion, just like ocean gate


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