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Originally Posted by Icantleavebecause
(Post 11650498)
Not as much before I agree but here in the US the moneys not as good as y'all think. I did 21 years in CX, was mostly 777 then went to the 747. Many of us left and came to the US to a 747 operator and had to go right seat. We were promised commands again within a couple of years and some good $$, so I took the shot and went for it. But that was hogwash as commands have not materialized, we are still FO's and the pay is not what we were promised. Some have gone back to CX but had to go back on the 747 which some of us refuse to do. I have read other posts where CX want a lot of folks on the 777 but is forcing previous guys and gals back to the over-crewed 747 fleet. It may not be fair to other pilots, but when was CX ever fair? It's a good idea in an ideal world, but does Cathay want to expand the airline or not?
And you believed that there were "quick" commands on the 74? USA is all seniority based and upgrade on the 74 at Atlas or Kalitta even now would be 6-10 years. |
Originally Posted by Icantleavebecause
(Post 11650498)
Not as much before I agree but here in the US the moneys not as good as y'all think. I did 21 years in CX, was mostly 777 then went to the 747. Many of us left and came to the US to a 747 operator and had to go right seat. We were promised commands again within a couple of years and some good $$, so I took the shot and went for it. But that was hogwash as commands have not materialized, we are still FO's and the pay is not what we were promised. Some have gone back to CX but had to go back on the 747 which some of us refuse to do. I have read other posts where CX want a lot of folks on the 777 but is forcing previous guys and gals back to the over-crewed 747 fleet. It may not be fair to other pilots, but when was CX ever fair? It's a good idea in an ideal world, but does Cathay want to expand the airline or not?
During the probationary period, notably the inaugural year, financial adjustments were necessitated. However, prudent financial planning facilitated a seamless transition, mitigating any undue fiscal strain and circumventing a reliance on a paycheck-to-paycheck existence. Subsequent to the probationary phase, my remuneration significantly surpassed that of my tenure at Cathay Pacific. Moreover, the newfound role affords a heightened degree of roster autonomy, augmented financial compensation—comprising premiums and per diems—and a diminished level of operational responsibility. Analogous to concluding a literary tome, my departure from Cathay Pacific invoked a sense of emotional detachment, akin to placing a book back upon the shelf. Intermittently encountering Cathay Pacific's presence during layovers in Hong Kong serves as a reaffirmation of the judiciousness of my career pivot. Conversations with peers who transitioned to passenger carriers within the United States similarly echo sentiments of contentment, devoid of lamentation over departing from Cathay Pacific. |
Did anyone here went to the roadshow? Did they send you an AON behavior quiz before hand ? Is there anything come off it?
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Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 11651600)
And you believed that there were "quick" commands on the 74? USA is all seniority based and upgrade on the 74 at Atlas or Kalitta even now would be 6-10 years.
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Originally Posted by jjmclure
(Post 11651780)
I’ll take the FO gig with Atlas or Kalitta, any day , over a command with CX for one reason alone ……Freedom !
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Originally Posted by Climbpowder
(Post 11651863)
Can i know which kind of freedom you talking about?
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Is there an on site interview on the road show? If so, how was it?
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Originally Posted by Climb150
(Post 11652268)
I don't know maybe freedom to be a journalist and not disappear?
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Originally Posted by Gweilo747
(Post 11651669)
In the U.S., career trajectories often follow a structured path, with initial positions typically situated in the co-pilot's seat, regardless of prior experience, save for exceptions within certain non-unionized entities. Reflecting on my own professional journey, I dedicated over two decades of service to Cathay Pacific before transitioning to flying cargo aircraft for the world's foremost logistics enterprise.
During the probationary period, notably the inaugural year, financial adjustments were necessitated. However, prudent financial planning facilitated a seamless transition, mitigating any undue fiscal strain and circumventing a reliance on a paycheck-to-paycheck existence. Subsequent to the probationary phase, my remuneration significantly surpassed that of my tenure at Cathay Pacific. Moreover, the newfound role affords a heightened degree of roster autonomy, augmented financial compensation—comprising premiums and per diems—and a diminished level of operational responsibility. Analogous to concluding a literary tome, my departure from Cathay Pacific invoked a sense of emotional detachment, akin to placing a book back upon the shelf. Intermittently encountering Cathay Pacific's presence during layovers in Hong Kong serves as a reaffirmation of the judiciousness of my career pivot. Conversations with peers who transitioned to passenger carriers within the United States similarly echo sentiments of contentment, devoid of lamentation over departing from Cathay Pacific. |
Originally Posted by Gweilo747
(Post 11651669)
In the U.S., career trajectories often follow a structured path, with initial positions typically situated in the co-pilot's seat, regardless of prior experience, save for exceptions within certain non-unionized entities. Reflecting on my own professional journey, I dedicated over two decades of service to Cathay Pacific before transitioning to flying cargo aircraft for the world's foremost logistics enterprise.
During the probationary period, notably the inaugural year, financial adjustments were necessitated. However, prudent financial planning facilitated a seamless transition, mitigating any undue fiscal strain and circumventing a reliance on a paycheck-to-paycheck existence. Subsequent to the probationary phase, my remuneration significantly surpassed that of my tenure at Cathay Pacific. Moreover, the newfound role affords a heightened degree of roster autonomy, augmented financial compensation—comprising premiums and per diems—and a diminished level of operational responsibility. Analogous to concluding a literary tome, my departure from Cathay Pacific invoked a sense of emotional detachment, akin to placing a book back upon the shelf. Intermittently encountering Cathay Pacific's presence during layovers in Hong Kong serves as a reaffirmation of the judiciousness of my career pivot. Conversations with peers who transitioned to passenger carriers within the United States similarly echo sentiments of contentment, devoid of lamentation over departing from Cathay Pacific. |
Originally Posted by buggaluggs
(Post 11652909)
Dang you used a lot of big words there….. you sure you’re a pilot?…… ;-)
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Originally Posted by Climbpowder
(Post 11652528)
Oh i thought he was talking about being a student supporting Palestine...
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Originally Posted by Climbpowder
(Post 11652912)
The problem with that argument is assuming everyone has the right to work in the U.S, everyone likes living in the U.S, and everyone is likely to get a job like yours. While I do not deny you may have the lifestyle and balance in your life that suits you best, I have seen many guys coming back regretting leaving CX in 2020 and 2021. I don't judge them or those who are happy to stay. Sad for those blaming everyone else rather than acting and changing their lives. Good for you!
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How did it go in JNB?
Probably the hotel staff had to get extra chairs giving the Saffa DFO the impression that “CoS18 is a competitive contract attracting top talent” |
20 weeks profit share with EK. How much did you guys get? And don't forget they got their conditions restored 2 years ago.
Why would anyone (particularly South Africans) come to CX, I wonder? |
Originally Posted by Zapp_Brannigan
(Post 11654898)
20 weeks profit share with EK. How much did you guys get? And don't forget they got their conditions restored 2 years ago.
Why would anyone (particularly South Africans) come to CX, I wonder? Pay & housing allowance are actually higher than before, too. I’m fairly confident they’ll be going up again over the summer. Why would anyone go there indeed. Probably for the comfortable living conditions. |
South Africans aren't just going to CX. They will go to any developed country they can. South Africa is approaching failed state status at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Zapp_Brannigan
(Post 11654898)
20 weeks profit share with EK. How much did you guys get? And don't forget they got their conditions restored 2 years ago.
Why would anyone (particularly South Africans) come to CX, I wonder? Akbar Al Baker was asked a few years ago if Qatar had concerns regarding attracting pilots when global demand for pilots was increasing. His response was only the bottom feeders will have concerns. |
I have friends across the Pacific in CX still, they tell me that pretty soon all those who have gone back will be drafted onto the A320/321 in 2025. Baloney maybe but very likely
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry Handpump
(Post 11655023)
Don’t forget 24 weeks last year. So 44 weeks since the world reopened, vs 7, I believe.
Pay & housing allowance are actually higher than before, too. I’m fairly confident they’ll be going up again over the summer. Why would anyone go there indeed. Probably for the comfortable living conditions. Cathay Roadshow Dubai , Like trying to sell a Nokia phone at an Apple Store ! |
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