Those who said EK earn more than CX are just liar. They dont know how low EK pay is. For those who are interested in CX , please keep applying. Big changes coming soon after task force set up by govt and CX. They will take everybody.

Well, we can see who the Cx management spokesmen are in this thread ! :)

The other important factor in a move to HK is your part of the Truman show. Since the HK protests CX provide the mainland government the GD for flights through their airspace. The mainland needs to assess the security threat the aircraft’s poses as it transits their airspace.
After that pattern you can relax back in your HK anonymous lifestyle where your HKID is recorded everywhere you go and who your employer is.
Make sure you don’t have an opinion on the 3T’s otherwise you will be marched off an airplane and not recorded as being in HK. Apparently you can cross the border and not be recorded doing so….who would have thought that is possible.

The take away from this is that you are no longer working in an independent HK. You are now part of the mainland, and anyone who has worked there will know what cost that needs to be added to any contract. Unfortunately CX doesn’t seem to account for that..

I’m glad CX is finally lowering their standards. I have one eye, color blind and full blown AIDS.
Finally I have a shot at my dream job!

you’re over qualified for CX mate! Hate to burst ur bubble!

Very true.
This is a fact, unarguable .

I might add get a command and disappear, get a good TR a few hours and disappear, stay another two years for the kids to finish school and go.

Not wrong, but the same argument could be made for hundreds of other airlines, including US majors.It used to be more difficult to get in almost everywhere, and likewise successful candidates have in general less experience nowadays.

True, but none of those getting commands in US majors, legacy carriers or even EK are leaving their airlines like in CX. I’ve had two friends leave well under a year after becoming CNs here (one practically handed in his resignation as he received his four bars). Unimaginable until 3 years ago.

We simply can’t compare ourselves to such airlines anymore.

Yep, they are the Nokia of Airlines!

We had 230 new joiners and around 210 quit so we're up by 20 or so in last 12 months. we had historically around 50-60 retire every year in the 20 ish years pre 2018. So CX still has 4 times the usual quitting/retirees. The days of anyone with any experience wanting to join CX are long gone, we're cranking up mainland recruitment for flightcrew, it's the only way forward.
As someone said, it's all about money, if you're on base pay at CX as many are you're worse off than if you'd stayed at a legacy carrier elsewhere like BA/QF etc, even with their higher tax base. That's how bad the pay at CX has got, though plenty of CX fanboys refuse to even look at what legacy carriers pay in 2024. We all had the choice and we took CX while our mates stayed and did the extra years to command at legacy carriers and now we're embarrassed to admit it wasn't the best choice.

not true .. there are still a lot of experienced pilots out there queueing to join. just accept all of them will solve the problem. special task force set up for this purpose. HR will make the call and FOP will just take order . hahahahaha....

New leaked images of this aforementioned "special task force"
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cf17ab9bf2.png

Thanks for the self portrait !

At one time the pilot ranks of Cathay Pacific were considered the gold standard of aviation experience and achievement. Sadly, after decades of toxic mismanagement and mindless cost cutting, the real and respected old China hands have all been pushed out. Mission accomplished.

Today Cathay Pacific has become an embarrassing punch line among the international pilot community.

Thanks goes to those geniuses that occupied the executive and flight ops offices during the long decline. Motivated purely by greed and jealousy, true weasels one and all.

Not what I hear from trainers and sim instructors, the command course mantra is you will be flying with an imbecile.
I have been personally in touch with experienced pilots asking for info and they are staying well away these days.
On one count you are correct, FOP just takes orders, from a bunch of incompetent idiots unfortunately but that doesn’t make them less guilty

I've been told by a friend still at CX that the sim passing rate for new DEFO applicants is absolutely appalling.
And that FOP has been asked to justify why they're failing candidates that obviously can't fly.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel, it seems...

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special task force by govt will fix this issue.

From the captains flying at cx I’ve heard the quality of who they work with in the cockpit has gone down significantly, making their job harder than say 3-4 years ago. Fo training is something like 15 sectors. When I went through it was at least 40, if you were lucky, many went to 60, if not more.

They should be paying the captains 30 percent MORE, not less!

It’s great to see that cygnet78 is so upbeat about the future at CX. I fly with ex CX guys and girls every month. They’re very clear about why they left and what happened to the culture when “the two Chinese a@#$&#@s” were assigned to management roles.

I had with a few who still fly there, their family lives are almost unliveable, no rostering, commuter type rosters and rubbish pay.

A once great airline has been ruined, that’s undeniable.

I believe his post was sarcasm, or maybe I’m reading too much into it.

It is sad to see how far CX has fallen. A once mighty world class airline to a basic Chinese LCC with a premium product. Truly one of the greatest falls from grace.