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CXKR2022 21st Feb 2023 06:48

When will CX restart hiring DESO?
 
Does anyone have any idea whether Cathay will be recruiting DESO anytime soon, especially for expats?
I would like to hear the opinion from the inside.

pill 21st Feb 2023 07:33

No idea. I heard there's a big training backlog with SO's currently. And company biasing upgrades towards locals hoping they will hang around longer. Fairness not really a thing here. You won't win a raffle if you don't buy a ticket. We used to think of it as winning Lotto, now more like winning a meat tray.

Brown Nose 21st Feb 2023 08:14


Originally Posted by pill (Post 11389108)
No idea. I heard there's a big training backlog with SO's currently. And company biasing upgrades towards locals hoping they will hang around longer. Fairness not really a thing here. You won't win a raffle if you don't buy a ticket. We used to think of it as winning Lotto, now more like winning a meat tray.


more like a turd full of maggots

Oddball77 21st Feb 2023 12:39


Originally Posted by CXKR2022 (Post 11389086)
Does anyone have any idea whether Cathay will be recruiting DESO anytime soon, especially for expats?
I would like to hear the opinion from the inside.

Rumour has it SO positions now are exclusively for locals, apparently it’s govt policy? Dunno how true?

cxflog 21st Feb 2023 19:39

They still haven’t rehired the SO expats they tossed away in 2020, so I doubt they’ll be looking for DESO’s anytime soon.

CXKR2022 22nd Feb 2023 01:32


Originally Posted by Oddball77 (Post 11389242)
Rumour has it SO positions now are exclusively for locals, apparently it’s govt policy? Dunno how true?

Can you tell me where you got that rumor from bro?

ZootBoot 22nd Feb 2023 07:38


Originally Posted by CXKR2022 (Post 11389544)
Can you tell me where you got that rumor from bro?

When Swire annihilated Dragonair, all of the pilots there lost their jobs. In response, HK Gov stopped issuing visas to expats as there were now qualified and very experienced people in HK who were unemployed. This extended to work visas not being renewed for some expat SOs who had been with CX for several years. There was mediation between gov and CX and the end result at this point in time is, SOs are hired locally as cadets and expats can only apply as DEFOs as that is where the airline has the skills shortage.

Unfortunately CX lost lots of its experienced FOs to the USA when McDonalds reopened its Trainee Manager program which offers better pay and conditions. Because they had experience working for clowns they were fast-tracked.


whitsunday 22nd Feb 2023 11:04


Originally Posted by ZootBoot (Post 11389629)
...the end result at this point in time is, SOs are hired locally as cadets and expats can only apply as DEFOs as that is where the airline has the skills shortage.

You forget our brothers and sisters in the North.
Apparently CX is now taking on Chinese Nationals for the icadet scheme.
Some thing that would have never happened back in the days.
Check out the new requirement.
Boom.

Oasis 22nd Feb 2023 11:26

What could possibly go wrong with putting a local and a mainland Chinese in the same cockpit.

How stupid can you be.

whitsunday 22nd Feb 2023 12:07

No. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. They can hire whoever they want however they want. It just tells you where the company is headed to, since we are touching on the topic of DESO.

Kitsune 22nd Feb 2023 17:46

Strange that when people come looking for work in our countries they are ‘immigrants’, but when we do the same we’re ‘expats’…

LootedfromCPA 22nd Feb 2023 23:54

Won't be surprised if the mainland cadets start bribing their way through the ICAO english tests.. those guys can get creative when it comes to cheating

Farman Biplane 23rd Feb 2023 05:44

When will CX restart hiring DESO?

Sometime after they finish hiring as many former CX DEC as they can from the last job ad.

Based on the package offered, that might not be too long!


trigonometry 23rd Feb 2023 11:39

Rumor also has it that CX is pushing for single pilot operation. With ChatGPT/AI on trend, I think it's possible in not so near future.

JMock 24th Feb 2023 06:29


Originally Posted by LootedfromCPA (Post 11390099)
Won't be surprised if the mainland cadets start bribing their way through the ICAO english tests.. those guys can get creative when it comes to cheating

you obv haven’t come face to face with the number of CAD approved ICAO English raters here whose numbers can be counted on one hand not including the thumb and fvvk you finger… one Rottweiler, one v sharp seen it all, and one company staffed by ex KA.
lotsa luck with the bribes


Rie 24th Feb 2023 06:41


Originally Posted by JMock (Post 11390767)
you obv haven’t come face to face with the number of CAD approved ICAO English raters here whose numbers can be counted on one hand not including the thumb and fvvk you finger… one Rottweiler, one v sharp seen it all, and one company staffed by ex KA.
lotsa luck with the bribes

The now ex KA FO's company used to run a pretty good racket, had many of the HKA and UO guys going through there getting English levels well beyond their unintelligible speech.

Klimax 25th Feb 2023 17:04


Originally Posted by ZootBoot (Post 11389629)
When Swire annihilated Dragonair, all of the pilots there lost their jobs. In response, HK Gov stopped issuing visas to expats as there were now qualified and very experienced people in HK who were unemployed. This extended to work visas not being renewed for some expat SOs who had been with CX for several years. There was mediation between gov and CX and the end result at this point in time is, SOs are hired locally as cadets and expats can only apply as DEFOs as that is where the airline has the skills shortage.

Unfortunately CX lost lots of its experienced FOs to the USA when McDonalds reopened its Trainee Manager program which offers better pay and conditions. Because they had experience working for clowns they were fast-tracked.

ARHAHAHAHHA... Lovely... Lovely....

Sue Ridgepipe 26th Feb 2023 00:48


Originally Posted by Rie (Post 11390771)
The now ex KA FO's company used to run a pretty good racket, had many of the HKA and UO guys going through there getting English levels well beyond their unintelligible speech.

Was that the same company that gave several native English speakers level 5 becasue the non-native speaking person doing the test couldn't understand them properly?

anxiao 26th Feb 2023 09:53

Possibly the same outfit. I re-tested a New Zealand guy in HKG who had been given a 5 by some outfit there and he was obviously a 6 within ten seconds of talking to him.

I'm still not sure how old sexty sex is however :}

Rie 26th Feb 2023 17:04


Originally Posted by Sue Ridgepipe (Post 11391694)
Was that the same company that gave several native English speakers level 5 becasue the non-native speaking person doing the test couldn't understand them properly?

Heard the rumours of the FO trying this on people. I’m under the impression it was more of a threat though. He would lose his accreditation pretty quickly if it was real.


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