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Piet Lood 27th Jan 2021 08:25

The reason they are looking for volunteers is that this is against the law. A bit similar to the one in seven that you signed away in return for NEGOTIATED FTL’s.
Once they tore up the FTL’s/RP’s, every pattern over 6 days has technically been illegal.
Now, everything goes out the window and you will sign a waiver that says you agree to the proposed 5 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
After the whole debacle is over they will use that as a precedent to argue that pilots really don’t need a break or see their family.
Good luck to you all!

hyg 27th Jan 2021 10:15


Originally Posted by freightdog188 (Post 10976958)
Hong Kong is not a dictatorship just yet.

Are you sure?? the court already said under a state of emergency, basically the gov can do whatever it likes .... look at the ruling regarding the anti-mask law

LLLQNH 27th Jan 2021 11:14

If only Cathay had pilots and Flight Attendants based outside of Hong Kong who could operate flights, and have no need to enter Hong Kong like the European airlines are doing... oh wait

carolknows 27th Jan 2021 12:46

How is it that more than 60,000 people in SIN have already received their first dose of the vaccine (as of a few days ago) yet ours can't even get supply until mid-February at the earliest? Explain (10 points question).

LLLQNH 27th Jan 2021 14:07

Gonna be hard to get vaccines Into hkg when there won't be any flights to bring them in as well! Great job Hong Kong government, literally cutting your nose off to spite your own face!

MENELAUS 27th Jan 2021 14:28

And our leadership (term used loosely with one notable exception ) have to play hard ball and tell them that.
Delaying the implementation of this until after CNY, the imposition of what is effectively a travel ban (21 days quarantine in a hotel anyone ) etc etc just shows what their priorities are. Apparently aircrew cannot spread the virus prior to that date ( or an inconsequential amount ). However, afterwards, magically we’re major sources of infection and we’re then considered criminals for just doing our jobs. Bringing in the bloody vaccine. And for once, for once, we have to develop a collective set of cojones.

Piet Lood 27th Jan 2021 20:40

“a collective set of cojones”...
You DO realise your audience is the weakest limp-dick set of aviators on the planet right?

Will IB Fayed 27th Jan 2021 21:37

LLLQNH

Except the HK union doesn't want that. "Reverse rostering" for normally HK based members. Read the letters.

controlledrest 28th Jan 2021 02:05

carolknows

Singapore Airlines has already started to vaccinate all employees. What is CX doing?

controlledrest 28th Jan 2021 02:08

Now that we are no longer valued employees and are minimum wage pay by the hour workers, how much per hour will we be paid to sit in a room for the quarantine period? If we aren't been paid, why the :mad: would anyone agree to this?

Rie 28th Jan 2021 02:54

The response normally given to me is "I am afraid that if I was to say no to their (gracious) request I would be next in line to be fired"

CXDOG 28th Jan 2021 03:31

Market forces at work especially on the 747. There is serious cargo revenue at stake here. Loosely interpreting the numbers in the announcement, profit on cargo flying is $500 million to $1 billion per month. If the weak link is pilot availability (reduced through quarantine needs) then they need to seriously incentivize 747 pilots. I’m thinking minimum of double our old Cos08 pay for the period of time this need exists (including the hotel and home time). Seems like a lot but not so long ago the 777 princesses were hauling that amount in on a regular basis for just doing 4 super cushy long hauls in a month.

Zapp_Brannigan 28th Jan 2021 03:33

Do you still have an ounce of goodwill available after your salary has been cut by half?

Come on! If there was a time to show them how much they could have achieved, had they acted honourably, now is the time!

Do they even care? They will blame the government or the pilots. It's never their fault, of course.

Pistolpete47 28th Jan 2021 04:24

FedEx have already offered to relocate all their HK based pilots to San Fran with families included.

Oasis 28th Jan 2021 06:16

Rie

this is where the fedex letter to the pilots stands in such a stark contrast with the cx request for ‘volunteers’.

since we don’t have last in first out anymore, everyone must be at least asking themselves at cx if it wouldn’t be a good thing to ‘volunteer’ for this kind of dreadful life for the foreseeable future and subject their family to this.

whereas fedex looked at the situation and said that this is not a sustainable situation for any family or person, cx will let the person decide and gaslighting them into believing that this is voluntary but with the lack of lifo gone, it is anything but.

all this will just add to the uncertainty that everyone is feeling, irrespective of call that we are ‘right sized’

carolknows 28th Jan 2021 06:25

Even Indonesia has vaccinated 179k people. Hello?

Oasis 28th Jan 2021 06:53

Even Myanmar has started..

carolknows 28th Jan 2021 09:14

Whilst aircrew are being blamed for the 1/3 UNTRACED cases, why don't they blame it that compulsory QR code upon entry to any restaurant or crowded malls is not enforced? How many people actually even use this app to record their footsteps? https://www.leavehomesafe.gov.hk/en/ WHY?

LLLQNH 28th Jan 2021 09:38

maybe something to do with all the massive and legal gatherings you can have at home or in private places! I don't suggest the West has a good handle on this situation at all however in Europe and Australia one hasn't been allowed to go to someone's house or gather in groups in public since this all started, maybe these clowns should look at banning meetings in private and public between anyone outside of your immediate living circle!

MENELAUS 28th Jan 2021 15:13

Not helped by this dip****tery.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...sidents-do-not


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