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WeelardPassord 11th Nov 2020 00:50

If KA guys still want to join CX I am sure there will be more than enough jobs in 2021. They already said will be needing to hire more pilots . And seniority list dropped 40 positions as of today. So why is everyone so worried ?

fly1981 11th Nov 2020 04:00


Originally Posted by LLLQNH (Post 10923413)
fly1981

Great and many of the laid off Second Officers are Hong Kong's own as well! The majority were cadet joining second officers; are they less important than the redundant KA pilots?

not at all, if they are local, they will be prioritized.

Gnadenburg 11th Nov 2020 05:21


Originally Posted by LLLQNH (Post 10923352)
fully expect the 100+ of our own guys and gals to be returned to the cockpit before we hire any external pilots. Might be a different story at HKe! Wishing all of the ex ka guys the best of luck but it would be wrong to not look after our own first!


Some of the most tragic and delusional posts on pprune have been from a small number of CX pilots recently.

Is this part of your Total War industrial scenario? The ink is not even dry on the contract you just signed and many observers must wonder if you even read it?

Who CX hires will be none of your business. You've had years to look after your own and empty sentiments here on pprune just make you look like a fool. The younger KA guys are already being snapped up by mainland carriers as DEC's based on professional reputation. I'd expect many will be snapped up by the CX group as well. Good luck to them they deserve a change of fortune.

Gaisha 11th Nov 2020 05:42

hear hear!

Terrain Terrain 11th Nov 2020 06:06


Originally Posted by Stone Temple Pilot (Post 10923732)
seniority is key in a pilot job.


Originally Posted by hyg (Post 10923736)
There's no common ASL


Originally Posted by WeelardPassord (Post 10923773)
seniority list dropped 40 positions as of today

What is this mythical seniority list you speak of? Your precious 'seniority' has been neutered, relegated to being a tool for staff travel and leave bidding. All previously held redundancy protections were signed away a few days ago, as were limitations on direct entry commands. Didn't you read what you signed?The company can now flick anyone to anywhere in the group, employ over the top of you and basically insert the pineapple in whatever orientation it so chooses: 'at it's sole and absolute discretion'. Vale CX & KA, I was once most fond of thee.

Dragon Pacific 11th Nov 2020 06:24

You haven’t even read the COS18 you signed. DECs can happen. Seniority counts previous service in a group airline. They will want to fly the first of the 321 neos which arrive in a couple of weeks time. The ex KA trainers that were kept on aren’t approved to train CX and that will take some time. MFF is a minefield and that won’t happen anytime soon either.
I predict that we will soon see ex red tie crews recruited to fly green. In time KA 320 local and PR pilots will start replacing HKE pilots as their work visas expire.
Same team same dream!

Dragon Pacific 11th Nov 2020 12:08

Swh. You obviously haven’t caught on to the reality of CoS18, what happened with Oasis has naff all to do with it.
The KA freighter guys did their initial 400 rating with CX while they were still KA. When CX took over they only had to do a PC and 4 sectors, it was a rapid command not a full CX command course.
There is a big difference between having MFF in the manuals and putting it into practice.

fly1981 11th Nov 2020 13:29


Originally Posted by swh (Post 10924109)

CX has along history of MFF on the A330/A340.

330/340 mff is a very different story to 321/350 mff.

controlledrest 12th Nov 2020 21:02


Originally Posted by carolknows (Post 10923066)
Today on The Standard:
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/secti...thay-next-year

Cathay Pacific said it has no plans to sack more staff and is considering hiring pilots and flight attendants again next year

And on 12 November DFO advises that CX has sacked more Flight Ops staff as planned. Anyone told Healy?

AllWobbly 13th Nov 2020 06:39

No point nobody thought he was telling the truth

KABOY 13th Nov 2020 07:58

Ask this guy.

https://au.wallmine.com/hkse/0293/of...gregory-hughes

carolknows 13th Nov 2020 14:07

Why is no one questioning him why he is not taking at least a 50% pay cut to save the company? Who justifies this amount?

Piet Lood 13th Nov 2020 16:51


Originally Posted by carolknows (Post 10925724)
Why is no one questioning him why he is not taking at least a 50% pay cut to save the company? Who justifies this amount?

Because in the long term he saved the company a gazillion dollars by decrasing the cos’s of 3000 pilots and many more cabin crew.

BalloonBuster 13th Nov 2020 22:19


Originally Posted by Piet Lood (Post 10925822)
Because in the long term he saved the company a gazillion dollars by decrasing the cos’s of 3000 pilots and many more cabin crew.

Unfortunately, the imminent big black hole is coming closer and closer, because of his way of management...


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