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OK4Wire 30th Oct 2020 02:22

1200 landings vs 100, for starters.

Sam Ting Wong 30th Oct 2020 03:36


Originally Posted by Dilbert68 (Post 10914738)
Exactly what he said. Most of us realize that there is no future here, when the world reopens, the exodus will begin. I would not be surprised if CX is woefully short of pilots in two years time. I guess that is a gamble they are willing to take.

They will roster us at 35ish hrs for the next few years, and arrange crewing levels accordingly. Like that they have full flexibility at very little cost.

carolknows 30th Oct 2020 08:12

:) For those interested, there is a #FlyWithDignity facebook and instagram page started by the FAU.
Also as they mentioned, i quote, - The mgmt's 1 year paycut is as follow: CEO 30%, directors 20%, managers 15%.

Gordomac 30th Oct 2020 10:35

At the start of all this, one chap defended his actions with a statement that he was well aware of the "kack sandwich" that was coming his way. Unlike anywhere else in the industry, CX fellas have been sitting around, doing nothing, on FULL pay. Stacks of time to take a step back and while Rome burns, view carefully what is going on. No brainer, actually. Now the kack sandwich has been delivered, of course everyone will bite. It is the only sensible decision given all the elements in a highly combustable environment. Making the only "sensible" decision appears to have occurred to some 98% almost a no brainer again. Not a nice tasting sarnie but it buys time. First thing we were all taught in the unplanned emergency case wasn't it ? Buy time. 98% have come to the same conclusion.

Oddball77 30th Oct 2020 12:06

[QUOTE=SloppyJoe;10913244]

Gotta love expats who think their superiority over the locals is the only thing stopping those idiot Asian airline people from killing themselves. [/QUOTE]

Did you even read what I wrote? It will be the lack of crew, the standard of those joining with no other options, such as the French guy who applied but ended up killing lots at Air Asia (an expat). The forced rapid progression.

I guess you didn't and are just an angry racist looking for an issue.
The French expat you talking about was a Pay to Fly pilot, who didn't have a clue how to recover a stalled aircraft - PPL stuff mate. He was the PF, the skipper was the one pulling circuit breakers.


cxorcist 30th Oct 2020 14:37


Originally Posted by Oddball77 (Post 10914747)
How is it any different?

That you have to ask tells us just how little you actually know. Hence the point!

Drc40 30th Oct 2020 16:00

Everyone needs to look at these worthless concessions for those cretins. They are an insult!

mngmt mole 30th Oct 2020 16:32

Let's put a few things in their proper light:

1) Managements pay cuts, only one year, then back to their former level
2) Management will reap larger bonuses due their cost cutting on all budgets
3) Trainers and Checkers have apparently been given a higher housing allowance, and in some cases a "secret" salary deal (not verified but there is evidence)
4) Senior levels of the company will see their compensation increase over this period, while all the regular staff (pilots/FA's/others) will see a catastrophic decrease in theirs
5) Management retain their gold-plated medical benefits for themselves and their families. Our families are thrown to the wolves if you have a serious illness

Farman Biplane 31st Oct 2020 00:40

and that surprises you?

Air Profit 31st Oct 2020 00:58

If course it doesn’t surprise me. I made plans accordingly these last 12 months. I just weep for the company and many close friends who have been devastated.

mngmt mole 31st Oct 2020 01:50

Not at all. I made my plans months ago. I just feel very sad for many of my peer group and their families.


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